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"This decision cannot stand"(CA Supremes rule against refusing to artificially inseminate lesbians)
California Catholic Daily ^ | August 19, 2008 | staff

Posted on 08/19/2008 5:30:23 PM PDT by kellynla

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To: kellynla

That's the GF on the left. Just damn.

21 posted on 08/20/2008 2:01:02 AM PDT by Impy (Spellcheck hates Obama, you should too.)
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To: Impy

The left of second picture. Guadalupe is the non-obese one.


22 posted on 08/20/2008 2:01:52 AM PDT by Impy (Spellcheck hates Obama, you should too.)
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To: Tanniker Smith; NYer; sionnsar; lightman; wagglebee; narses
but the doctor had no religious problems with artificial insemination in the first place?

Simple solution, really, stop inseminating and go into a different practice.

What a great point! Many Christians fail to consider that because multiple eggs need to be fertilized, artificial insemination is likely to result in the destruction or abandonment of the unborn child after conception. There is an inconsistency from a Christian perspective to taking a principled position on marriage but not on the unborn.

23 posted on 08/20/2008 5:43:16 AM PDT by Huber (And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not. - John 1:5)
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To: markomalley; Huber; Tanniker Smith; NYer; sionnsar; lightman; wagglebee; narses
The Catholic Church has always been against in vitro fertilization. See markomalley's reply #11 for an instruction written over 20 years ago.
24 posted on 08/20/2008 6:15:29 AM PDT by ELS (Vivat Benedictus XVI!)
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To: Huber; Tanniker Smith; NYer; sionnsar; lightman; narses

More here:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2064555/posts

At the risk of sounding insensitive, some people are simply unable to have children and we MUST accept that this is as God intended it.

However, in the case of lesbians it is generally NOT an inability to have children, rather it is an UNWILLINGNESS to give up their sinful lifestyle.


25 posted on 08/20/2008 6:20:49 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: ELS; markomalley; Huber; Tanniker Smith; NYer; sionnsar; lightman; narses
The Catholic Church has always been against in vitro fertilization.

Because it has ALWAYS been wrong!

26 posted on 08/20/2008 6:23:51 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: TheBattman
I see this somewhat akin to a Doctor being forced to perform abortions.

I see it more akin to a Doctor who only performs abortions on black babies and won't perform them for Asians (or pick any combination of races/ethnicities you'd like).

27 posted on 08/20/2008 7:26:16 AM PDT by Tanniker Smith (Teachers open the door. It's up to you to enter.)
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To: kellynla

Not surprising. As a licenced professional and/or buisiness you can’t discriminate against legal clientel. The Palestinian Barber can’t refuse service to a Jewish customer. A Muslim Cabbie can’t refuse a Drunk fair. And a Doctor/Hospital can’t refuse to provide accepted medical service because the patient is Pagan, Homosexual, etc.


28 posted on 08/20/2008 12:23:09 PM PDT by The_Repugnant_Conservative
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To: Tanniker Smith

What does race or ethnicity have to do with this case? If your practice relates to family planning/fertility and your personal beliefs (correct beliefs, I might add) are that God’s definition of a family includes a father and mother (male and female), then you should have the right to restrict your practice to said couples.

I have yet to find anywhere in the US Constitution a protections for sexual orientation. Much like so many other prohibitions and “rights”, this was engineered by congress and liberal courts.

Constitutional protection is extended in the case of race, religion (where it does not inhibit the person from performing reasonable expected function), gender (not gender confusion), and ethnicity.

One of the last (apparently) bastions of true Constitutional Conservatism relates to a person’s freedom from government’s heavy hand.

What is next? Doctors will be required to perform “gender re-assignment surgery”?

And I stick to my abortion illustration. If a doctor believes that abortion is wrong, then he should be allowed to refuse to perform them.


29 posted on 08/20/2008 4:04:54 PM PDT by TheBattman (Vote your conscience, or don't complain about RINOs!)
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What is next? Doctors will be required to perform “gender re-assignment surgery”?

Total non-sequitir. No one is being forced to perform insemination against their will. They already perform it. The question is whom they will contract their services to. That simple.

You stated your beliefs, and you are welcome to them. I have my own. One of them is this: if you have some kind of religious reservations, you shouldn't be performing artificial insemination in the first place, and it won't matter who you aren't providing the service to.

30 posted on 08/20/2008 4:52:22 PM PDT by Tanniker Smith (Teachers open the door. It's up to you to enter.)
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