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McCain (And Lindsey Graham!) weighs a Lieberman surprise
Politico ^ | 8/19/08 | MIKE ALLEN & JONATHAN MARTIN & ALEXANDER BURNS

Posted on 08/19/2008 12:17:41 PM PDT by GOPGuide

John McCain is seriously considering choosing a pro-abortion-rights running mate despite vocal resistance from conservatives, with former Democratic vice presidential nominee Joseph I. Lieberman (I-Conn.) very much in the mix, close McCain advisers say.

Under strong consideration: former Pennsylvania Republican Gov. Tom Ridge, and Lieberman, who was Al Gore’s running mate in 2000.

Multiple GOP sources say that party officials in Washington and in the states have been contacted by the McCain campaign in the past two weeks and asked about the fallout from such a choice. One person familiar with the calls said the party was being instructed to prepare for different candidate prototypes — including one in the mold of Lieberman, who is an independent but still caucuses with the Democrats.

One obstacle for Lieberman may be legal. A GOP official said that since he is not a Republican, Lieberman may have a challenge being certified on some state ballots.

But GOP sources say McCain and his close friend Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) still haven’t given up hope on making what some believe would be a game-changing decision by tapping Lieberman.

Lieberman’s office declined to discuss the topic. “Those questions are best left to the McCain campaign at this time,” said Erika Masonhall, Lieberman’s Senate press secretary.

Ridge also appears to still be on the short list, GOP sources say. McCain likes the fact that Ridge is a Vietnam War hero with a working-class background. Ridge worked in the White House as Bush’s homeland security adviser before becoming Secretary of Homeland Security, and could help McCain with his further reform of the nation’s intelligence apparatus.

“He’s McCain’s kind of guy,” said a close friend of the candidate.

McCain, who in the past had said it would be hard to choose a supporter of abortion rights, told Steve Hayes of The Weekly Standard last week that he would not rule it out.

One source close to the campaign who is sympathetic to such a plan sketched out a scenario in which Lieberman was the choice.

“First, if your instinct is to run on experience, it doesn’t hurt to have a vice president who’s got it, too,” said this source, a conservative.

But more than that, according to this source, picking Lieberman would dramatically support McCain’s theme that he puts “country first” above all else.

“It would fit well into the narrative of his not having any politics in the White House,” said the source. “No more Dick Morris, no more Karl Rove — we’re governing here. It’s an easy, natural message for McCain and it implies a one-term pledge without actually saying it.”

As for the inevitable blowback from the right, this person acknowledged the convention would be “a messy week,” representing a “shock to the system of a pro-life party.”

But would it be worth it? “The question is: On Sept. 15 or 25, is he in better shape or not?” the source asked.

McCain allies are hopeful that the candidate’s strong statement on abortion Saturday night at Rick Warren’s California church could assuage any concerns from the right-to-life community about what a supporter of abortion rights on the ticket would mean.

“I will be a pro-life president and this presidency will have pro-life policies,” McCain said at Saddleback. “That's my commitment; that's my commitment to you.”

Others in the party — including several veterans of President Bush’s past campaigns — say such a choice would be untenable and are dreading the prospect of what Lieberman, or perhaps even Ridge,would mean to a base that is already less than enthusiastic about McCain.

“Lieberman would blow things up,” said the American Conservative Union’s David Keene. “That would be like Obama picking some right-winger that agrees with him on one thing.”

As for the convention, Keene said Lieberman’s selection would set off some sort of “protest” among the party’s rank and file. Tapping Ridge, Keene said, wouldn’t be as bad, but would still “overshadow” St. Paul.

Already, one website has begun a petition aimed at dissuading McCain from tapping a supporter of abortion rights.

“Please keep Senator McCain and his key advisers in your prayers as he nears a decision on his VP pick, and please sign the petition and pass on to like-minded pro-lifers,” Billy Valentine, a young Republican and former supporter of Kansas Sen. Sam Brownback’s presidential bid, writes above the petition on “Catholics for McCain.”

Other Republican regulars, speaking anonymously so as not to anger the party’s nominee, warn of the consequences.

Another well-placed Republican official who is in regular contact with McCain’s campaign predicted a contentious gathering in St. Paul.

“You will not have a unanimous vote at the convention, that much I can tell you,” said this source. “There will be some blowback.”

Many leading conservatives have strongly pushed back on McCain’s suggestion that he might choose a pro-choice running mate.

For the third day in a row, talk radio guru Rush Limbaugh castigated the idea Tuesday on his radio show, saying the mainstream media — “the drive-by media,” in his parlance — is enthralled by the idea.

“The drive-bys are just hoping for it, because they know the base will totally turn on McCain if this is the case,” Limbaugh said. “If he picks a pro-choice running mate, it’s not going to be pretty, and the drive-bys know it."

“The question is how to get the message to McCain," he said. "You don’t get in McCain’s face and say, ‘Don’t do it.’ That’s a dumb thing to do. [You have to say something like] ‘Sen. McCain, we know you’re smart … and we know you don’t want to lose.’”

The answer to what McCain is thinking could come soon. Republicans were told that barring a change, McCain plans to appear with his pick at an arena in Dayton, Ohio, on Aug. 29 — a week from Friday, and the day after Barack Obama accepts the Democratic nomination in a Denver stadium.

Campaign advisers said Obama’s performance is likely to be so strong they think it will “scare” Republicans, and they’re eager to change the conversation to their own No. 2 the next morning.

Obama is likely to make his pick this Friday, Saturday or Sunday, according to advisers. But they warned it could come any time.


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008veep; baseless; election; elections; fearmongering; hysteria; lieberman; mccain; mccainlist; rumors
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To: WilliamReading

Meg Whitman has suddenly surged on Intrade as a VP choice. Sounds unlikely . . . but McCain mentioned her ath the debate.


61 posted on 08/19/2008 12:39:35 PM PDT by WilliamReading
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To: Miss Didi

See post 53.


62 posted on 08/19/2008 12:40:12 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW ("Make yourself sheep, and the wolves will eat you" Benjamin Franklin)
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To: GOPGuide

does he still caucus with the dems?


63 posted on 08/19/2008 12:40:32 PM PDT by machogirl
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To: GOPGuide

Obviously McCain floating it so conservatives will be relieved when he picks Pawlenty or Romney.


64 posted on 08/19/2008 12:41:11 PM PDT by Onerom99
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To: nikos1121

It seems to me that presidential nomination is almost removed from party control. The one area that the party still exerts control is over the VP pick. If McCain can’t throw the party faithful a bone on the VP pick then he is, IMHO, playing to win in extra innings. I think if we ‘goes conservative’ he gives the electorate a clear choice & at least has the chance of winning the election (rather than hoping that Obama loses it).


65 posted on 08/19/2008 12:41:20 PM PDT by Tallguy ("The sh- t's chess, it ain't checkers!" -- Alonzo (Denzel Washington) in "Training Day")
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To: GOPGuide
It probably is a great idea. Lieberman would appeal to moderate liberals and solidify McCain as moderate to slightly left of moderate candidate. Many self described conservatives would nonetheless vote for the dynamic liberal McCain/Lieberman duo because they are so scared of Obama. They would buy into the lesser of two evils argument espoused by the RNC and pull the RINO lever. McCain would likely win and not until later will the conservatives realize they achieved a Pyrrhic victory. Soros can celebrate because he will have achieved one party rule.

Regardless, I am voting for the Constitution Party.

66 posted on 08/19/2008 12:41:23 PM PDT by MBB1984
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To: nikos1121
I don’t think the abortion issue with the VP is important

Uh, the VP is the President of the Senate. What if a vote on abortion rights comes up and he has to cast the deciding vote? Or, what if the President dies and he becomes President? What then???

Not important? Riiiiiiiight...

67 posted on 08/19/2008 12:41:55 PM PDT by bcsco (Contact McCain today. NO to pro-choice VP!)
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To: GOPGuide
Lindsey Gramnisty was seated next to McCain's wife at the televised interview this week

Gramnisty is the choice

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68 posted on 08/19/2008 12:42:13 PM PDT by Elle Bee
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To: RexBeach

Semi-homemade? She cheats. lol


69 posted on 08/19/2008 12:42:51 PM PDT by kalee
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To: kalee

She’s got great tablescapes!


70 posted on 08/19/2008 12:44:46 PM PDT by RexBeach
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To: NavyCanDo
The MSM is taking single quotes and trying to make mountains out of mole hills. NRO probably heard one McCain Adviser say that no one is out of the running until it's announced and then they follow up with something like, “Lieberman?” then the response was “no one”.
71 posted on 08/19/2008 12:46:31 PM PDT by tobyhill (fraud -noun;(1)deceit, trickery, sharp practice, or breach of confidence, (2) Obama)
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To: Elle Bee
That little Lindsey Grahamnesty is such a trouble maker!
72 posted on 08/19/2008 12:46:37 PM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: GOPGuide

Why in the hell would GOP voters want to vote for a ticket that has a Democrat on it? So if something happens to McIndependent, we get a bonifide liberal as POTUS!

I’d like to have at least one Conservative on the ticket.


73 posted on 08/19/2008 12:47:36 PM PDT by SampleMan (We are a free and industrious people, socialist nannies do not become us.)
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To: GOPGuide

Ok,who is going to conduct suicide watch over this campaign?


74 posted on 08/19/2008 12:48:25 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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To: GOPGuide

This is pure insanity. McCain needs to pick a strongly conservative VP. Why does he want to risk alienating the base. Just like a Republican - pulling defeat from the jaws of victory again.


75 posted on 08/19/2008 12:50:27 PM PDT by ChinaThreat (s)
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To: imahawk
Ok,who is going to conduct suicide watch over this campaign?

Not me. If McCain choses Lieberman, Ridge, or some other pro-choice running mate, then the party's over. They won't be worth my time. Does a Presidential campaign make a sound in the woods when it falls?

76 posted on 08/19/2008 12:51:09 PM PDT by bcsco (Contact McCain today. NO to pro-choice VP!)
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To: Always Right

This could very well be a big “head fake” to throw the other side off???


77 posted on 08/19/2008 12:52:30 PM PDT by TheGunny
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To: GOPGuide; SierraWasp; Czar; ElkGroveDan; NormsRevenge; SoConPubbie; LadyNavyVet; Grunthor; ...

This looks like a set up by the campaign team. They (the same team) did this all the time with Schwarzenegger.

First, they leak to the press the some horrible possibility as being considered by their candidate. Then they play it up in the media and on the internet. By the time everyone’s head has exploded, the candidate then makes a choice only mildly better than the one leaked and the new mantra becomes “Well, it’s better than such-and-such.” All of the sheep let out a big sigh-of-relief, believing they dodged the big one (despite the fact that what they are now being offered was once recently considered unpalatable.)

Everything is relative. So, just remember—if he nominates anyone to the right of Obama, everyone should parade in the streets in celebration! /s


78 posted on 08/19/2008 12:53:03 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl

I have said all along that if he picks someone like Mitt or better, he’ll likely have my vote. So if this is some kind of a set up, it’s wasted time where I am concerned.


79 posted on 08/19/2008 12:54:42 PM PDT by Grunthor (When your only principle is winning, you value nothing.)
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To: calcowgirl

Crap like this may work in Kalifornia, but it won’t work with pro-lifers.


80 posted on 08/19/2008 12:56:20 PM PDT by bcsco (Contact McCain today. NO to pro-choice VP!)
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