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To: Paved Paradise

What is the test to determine if someone is a Christian or not?

Is there a membership card or registration process? Do you have to be a member of a church?

If you say you are a Christian, who am I to say you are not? Clearly that would be for God to decide.

Hitler claimed to be a Christian. He claimed a belief in the “Creator”.


81 posted on 08/22/2008 10:35:37 AM PDT by Soliton (> 100)
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To: Soliton

I disagree with you. If someone tells me they are a Christian and they act in complete disobedience to Christ and His teachings, I have absolutely no problem with saying that this individual is NOT a Christian; in fact, if this person would be within my social circle, I would be derelict if I did not confront them with their sin. In my church and in my circle of Christian friends, we hold each other accountable. We are not mean about it but when someone claims to know Christ, they should be able to accept constructive criticism if they are actively and deliberately engaging in sinful conduct.

I am not talking about the fact that we ALL sin and we all sin everyday. Obviously, no man is without sin.

As for what God decides, obviously He is the ultimate arbiter of our eternal reward, but Christians have the right to make assessments of those claiming to be among us.

Incidentally, since I can recognize good and say, “that person is a good person,” there is no reason I cannot say, “that person is not a Christian - I see no fruit.”

As my pastor friend always said, “an apple tree produces apples.”

And who knows the name of the creator Hitler believe in? I personally believe he was completely and utterly under the dominion of Satan. Not necessarily possessed, mind you, but of like mind.


82 posted on 08/23/2008 5:38:57 PM PDT by Paved Paradise
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