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To: GodGunsGuts
It was your source that equated the two; saying ... “the Holy See’s endorsement of “intelligent design” theory, which essentially backs the “Adam and Eve” theory of creation.”

Moreover the Pope never endorsed I.D. in fact he characterized it as a “God of the gaps” argument, which is exactly the case.

So seeings as how the Pope believes that evolution is the means whereby God created human beings does that mean that the Pope has chosen the “evil” side of this “spiritual war” you are talking about? Why do you keep avoiding the question? You have no hesitation in calling me evil for believing in the same sort of theistic evolution as the Pope.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-447930/Pope-Benedict-believes-evolution.html

As well as praising scientific progress, the Pope's views, published in a new book ‘Schoepfung unt Evolution’ (Creation and Evolution), did not endorse the creationist, or ‘intelligent design’ view of life's origins.

In the book, Benedict defended what is known as ‘theistic evolution’, the view held by Roman Catholic, Orthodox and mainline Protestant churches, that God created life through evolution and religion and science need not clash over this.

“I would not depend on faith alone to explain the whole picture,” he remarked during the discussion held at the papal summer palace in Castel Gandolfo outside Rome.

He also denied using a ‘God-of-the-gaps’ argument that sees divine intervention whenever science cannot explain something.

“It's not as if I wanted to stuff the dear God into these gaps - he is too great to fit into such gaps,” he said in the book that publisher Sankt Ulrich Verlag in Augsburg said would later be translated into other languages.

879 posted on 08/22/2008 2:49:23 PM PDT by allmendream (If "the New Yorker" makes a joke, and liberals don't get it, is it still funny?)
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To: allmendream

“Ultimately it comes down to the alternative: What came first? Creative Reason, the Creator Spirit who makes all things and gives them growth, or Unreason, which, lacking any meaning, strangely enough brings forth a mathematically ordered cosmos, as well as man and his reason. The latter, however, would then be nothing more than a chance result of evolution and thus, in the end, equally meaningless. As Christians, we say: I believe in God the Father, the Creator of heaven and earth. I believe in the Creator Spirit. We believe that at the beginning of everything is the eternal Word, with Reason and not Unreason.”

— Pope Benedict XVI


882 posted on 08/22/2008 3:01:51 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: allmendream

==So seeings as how the Pope believes that evolution is the means whereby God created human beings does that mean that the Pope has chosen the “evil” side of this “spiritual war” you are talking about?

He doesn’t believe that we are the product of random chance evolution. To my mind, this means he believes in some form of ID. Moreover, he fired his chief astronomer for criticizing ID and saying it shouldn’t be taught in school. Now the Pope is even dismantling and moving the observatory his chief astronomer was in charge of. So no, I completley reject the premise of your question.


884 posted on 08/22/2008 3:12:27 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: allmendream

Having said that, Creation Science is vastly superior to ID, and infinitely superior to Darwin’s fairytale of unintelligent design.


887 posted on 08/22/2008 3:16:26 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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