Posted on 08/18/2008 9:35:10 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
Like where it says that God found it not good that man was alone so he created animals for Adam's company ...
sorry. creationwiki.org
You can teach it in the religious classes. Just keep it out of the science classes.
And calling creationism religious teachings, just because you say it is...IS ALSO A QUITE FAILED TACTTIC BY NOW.
Here is another good one.
Check out the Institute for Creation Research website! (excerpts below).
They are doing pure apologetics, not science.
Tenets of Scientific Creationism
- The physical universe of space, time, matter, and energy has not always existed, but was supernaturally created by a transcendent personal Creator who alone has existed from eternity.
- The phenomenon of biological life did not develop by natural processes from inanimate systems but was specially and supernaturally created by the Creator.
- Each of the major kinds of plants and animals was created functionally complete from the beginning and did not evolve from some other kind of organism. Changes in basic kinds since their first creation are limited to "horizontal" changes (variations) within the kinds, or "downward' changes (e.g., harmful mutations, extinctions).
- The first human beings did not evolve from an animal ancestry, but were specially created in fully human form from the start. Furthermore, the "spiritual" nature of man (self-image, moral consciousness, abstract reasoning, language, will, religious nature, etc.) is itself a supernaturally created entity distinct from mere biological life.
- The record of earth history, as preserved in the earth's crust, especially in the rocks and fossil deposits, is primarily a record of catastrophic intensities of natural processes, operating largely within uniform natural laws, rather than one of gradualism and relatively uniform process rates. There are many scientific evidences for a relatively recent creation of the earth and the universe, in addition to strong scientific evidence that most of the earth's fossiliferous sedimentary rocks were formed in an even more recent global hydraulic cataclysm.
- Processes today operate primarily within fixed natural laws and relatively uniform process rates, but since these were themselves originally created and are daily maintained by their Creator, there is always the possibility of miraculous intervention in these laws or processes by their Creator. Evidences for such intervention should be scrutinized critically, however, because there must be clear and adequate reason for any such action on the part of the Creator.
- The universe and life have somehow been impaired since the completion of creation, so that imperfections in structure, disease, aging, extinctions, and other such phenomena are the result of "negative" changes in properties and processes occurring in an originally-perfect created order.
- Since the universe and its primary components were created perfect for their purposes in the beginning by a competent and volitional Creator, and since the Creator does remain active in this now-decaying creation, there do exist ultimate purposes and meanings in the universe. Teleological considerations, therefore, are appropriate in scientific studies whenever they are consistent with the actual data of observation. Furthermore, it is reasonable to assume that the creation presently awaits the consummation of the Creator's purpose.
- Although people are finite and scientific data concerning origins are always circumstantial and incomplete, the human mind (if open to possibility of creation) is able to explore the manifestations of that Creator rationally, scientifically, and teleologically.
We should present alternate ideas in the religious classes also?
Happens every day all day long...from Bible school to religious studies courses...
What on earth gave you the idea that religion has been hijacked by godless liberals or that people with ideas are sued into silence just like science, history, journalism, law, politics and so on?
godless liberals have the freedom to interject ideas all they want and do so to the point they’ve created all kinds of cults like scientology!
Honestly, there’s no telling what godless liberals have filled young heads with these days!
We should present alternate ideas in the religious classes also?
Happens every day all day long...from Bible school to religious studies courses...
What on earth gave you the idea that religion has been hijacked by godless liberals or that people with ideas are sued into silence just like science, history, journalism, law, politics and so on?
godless liberals have the freedom to interject ideas all they want and do so to the point they’ve created all kinds of cults like scientology!
Honestly, there’s no telling what godless liberals have filled young heads with these days!
you were warned.
Don’t you agree that the alternate theory that the ID’er is not God but some alien from outer space be presented in Sunday school? After all, we want our children to know both sides ...
I must have missed it. Can you point me to the warning?
No mark. Already addressed the comment.
Sanity looks insane and insanity looks sane.
I suppose science is just like religion when you come into it looking at it from your own understanding.
As evidenced by godless liberalism and the sheer havoc it has reeked on society!
#4 is what seals the deal for me...even if you guys are doing everything within your being to force people to take a second peek at that!
You really do believe we evolved from apes?
Belief has nothing to do with it. In fact, as Heinlein noted, "Belief gets in the way of learning."
The current evidence shows that both we and modern apes evolved from a common ancestor. The most recent common ancestor of humans and chimps was about six million years ago. Other common ancestors, such as between humans and Old World or New World monkeys, were much earlier.
The evidence for this is overwhelming.
No. Scientists accept that people are fallible. Why do you try to misrepresent the facts.
LOL! Scientists just don’t accept that SCIENTISTS are fallable...that would be the “objective” godless liberal scientists that demand evolution and only evolution be taught that can only stand if other ideas are censored, and hijack the law to enforce their views to program the masses in their godless hot air algoreacle cult.
Say maybe you can direct me to a godless liberal outfit that has done this nation some good through their objectivity?
But I’m not getting the popcorn out after the Genesis wet paper bag incident...in fact...I gotta get me some beauty sleep!
Oh, but they DO. Why do you persist in trying to misrepresent (smear) scientists?
Which one now?
Don’t you agree that the alternate theory that the ID’er is not God but some alien from outer space be presented in Sunday school? After all, we want our children to know both sides ...
I feel truly sorry for you.
This EXACT scenario happened in our Sunday school.
A child asked that question and the fact is we don’t know...IF you would read Genesis in the manner you were warned once already, you can plainly see God said “we made man...” and so on. I assume this means the angels, but I very well could be wrong. I also know as I grow old and wiser and if it’s God’s will, He’ll inform me through His loving spirit.
We promote freedom. In Sunday school, in science class. ALL.
This is the difference between you and me.
You were programmed in a godless environment of fear and I wasn’t. A loving kind genuine caring church atmosphere where people CAN bring up ideas just like that! We bounce around ideas like this all the time, and NEVER feel so insecure that we need to control others much less censor them!
You have a profound misunderstanding of Christianity I suspect because you’ve simply not been in the proper environment and I’d seriously try and find a place to get your head around some reality! More importantly, just some new perspective!
I keep hearing how smart and open minded and objective you are...seriously how UNfascist you all are and how we are the REAL fascists and so on...
if this is true, you would certainly learn the truth even in a so-called loving Christ centered church that yoiu see as the enemy of science! The Truth bears itself out! You can either confirm your (mis)beliefs about Christianity and God and grow one way or another, or keep embarassing yourself to no end and stay bitter about that which you so plainly don’t understand.
Otherwise, I can tell from your tone already, anger and bitterness will plague you the rest of your days!
Belief has nothing to do with it.
that’s some very VERY heavy delusion to penetrate...
you either believe God or you don’t believe it.
You eiother believe we came from monkeys or we didn’t.
The evidence is there were monkeys and there were men, but there’s nothing to suggest we came from the same ancestor. We could just as easily take this all the way back as far as the fossil record allows us to and see two separate species...monkeys and ancient man.
godless liberals...the censors...it’s not a smear, it’s called exposure.
You’re late to the party, but in essence, we see it in all walks of godless liberal life.
Like Heinz-KErry calling it a smear or swiftboating when the truth about him came out...like throwing his medals over the fence.
It’s how godless liberals work...
I’m learning it’s impossible to see when you’re angry at God.
I've seen the evidence. You are incorrect.
Good night for now.
Scientists wouldn’t be bleeding off of evolution and leaving the dark side.
Good night.
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