Posted on 08/16/2008 4:10:20 PM PDT by RKV
UKRAINE yesterday offered to create a joint missile defence network with the West amid fears that its port city of Sebastopol, home of the Russian Black Sea fleet, could become the next flashpoint between Russia and its former satellites.
The Ukrainian offer, which means its early warning radar stations could become part of the West
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Ukraine in NATO- NOW!
Looks like the fuse is lit.
That is known as an act of war. Bring Ukraine into NATO now and when its time for the lease to expire, bring in the U.S. Sixth Fleet and have Ukraine host a major NATO field exercise.
Then, if the Russians don't leave, board their ships with Marines.
This is going to drive the American Lefties nutz...LOL
I love this stuff
This may sound good but NATO has been dying for years now. Most of Europe hates the US and it’s time to part ways. New alliances need to be formed. Poland and other former eastern bloc nations have taken firm stands and we should welcome them.
Invasions have consequences.
Comic Book solution, if there ever were one....
Right. Because the Russians respond so well to diplomacy. Perhaps a "pretty please" would work.
“Ukraine in NATO- NOW!”
Amen to that!
nyuk nyuk nyuk
First Georgia.
Oh yeah.....and justifiably so.
Yeah but we will live. They won't be so lucky.:-)
If you think appeasing them is the thing to do, you don't understand Russians.
“He instructed his security council to draw up new rules forcing Russia to apply up to 10 days in advance for permission for its fleet to move in and out of Ukraine’s territorial waters.”
Before the chain-jerked comments get out of hand, it is worth noting that without knowing exactly what the treaty (? is this a treaty?) regarding the port says, we have no idea if Ukraine is in fact entitled to take these measures. It may be that what Ukraine is doing is illegal, by their own treaty.
it is entirely possible Russia could use the port as headquarters for WWIII and not be in violation in any way.
Treaties trump feelings, and in fact trump laws. don’t think so? try nafta.
When the hell did I say anything about appeasement? I’m the one here calling for the Ukraine to be admitted to NATO immediately. And I’m not so sure we’ll live. We still have to stand up to their aggression, but lucky doesn’t have much to do with nukes. Our missile defenses aren’t built to handle the numbers they can throw. I spent a lot of years in the business so I have personal knowledge of the field, if perhaps not completely current. Time to get VERY SERIOUS here.
Point well made.
Russia’s problem is to get the Black Sea Fleet out of Sevastopol,most of it will need to be towed. They are in very tough shape.
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