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Pastors' ad praises Obama for standing by his family (unlike some candidates?)
Dallas Morning News ^ | 8/16/08 | Bruce Tomato

Posted on 08/16/2008 1:25:58 PM PDT by pissant

A new ad from the Matthew 25 Network, a liberal pastors' group that supports Barack Obama, commends him for being a good family man.

The impliciation is that John McCain -- who has admitted to cheating on his first wife with the blond mistress who became his second and current wife -- comes up short in this regard.

Among those featured in the ad is Kirbyjon Caldwell, the Houston pastor who is a family friend of George W. Bush. (He officiated at Jenna's wedding this spring.) Despite remaining close to the Bushes, Caldwell has endorsed Obama.

McCain is never mentioned in the ad, but at one point, Caldwell says, "Throughout his entire career, Sen. Obama has stood by familes."

Caldwell's wife, Suzette, seated next to him, responds: "Including his own."

Caldwell nods, smiles, and says, "Hmmmm."

Steven Waldman, the editor-in-chief of Beliefnet.com, says the ad is to run during televised coverage of the two candidates' appearance tonight at Rick Warren's Saddleback Church in Orange County, Calif.

(Excerpt) Read more at trailblazersblog.dallasnews.com ...


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To: Vision Thing
It's more like 'barackback'.

I opt for

"Braaackback".

If that sounds sort of like a Bronx cheer, well, so be it.

21 posted on 08/16/2008 2:21:33 PM PDT by Ole Okie (Who are you going to believe anyway, Gore or your lyin' eyes?)
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To: pissant

Matthew 25 Network is a newly formed national Political Action Committee (PAC) being spearheaded by Mara Vanderslice, who was director of religious outreach for the Kerry-Edwards campaign in 2004

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2006/12/26/us/26faith.1.600.jpg

operative, Mara Vanderslice, and her 2-year-old consulting firm, Common Good Strategies

Mara Vanderslice, who formerly worked as religion outreach director for Democrat Howard Dean, was raised without any faith and didn’t become an evangelical Christian until she attended Earlham College, a Quaker school known for its
adherence to pacifism

“Vanderslice spoke at rallies organized by ACT-UP, an anti-Catholic group that disrupted Mass at St. Patrick’s Cathedral in 1989 and spit the Eucharist on the floor.”

New PAC Seeks to Court Christians for Obama

Mike McCurry, a former White House press secretary under President Clinton, is the most prominent name on the invitation

Mr. McCurry said the advantage of forming an outside group, which functions independently of the campaign, is the separation allows them to tailor their outreach to evangelicals specifically

Mike McCurry, a Democratic consultant and former spokesman for President Bill Clinton who worked with Ms. Vanderslice on the Kerry campaign.

Ms. Vanderslice and her business partner, Eric Sapp, pushed sometimes reluctant Democrats to speak publicly, early and in detail about the religious underpinnings of their policy views. They persuaded candidates to speak at conservative religious schools and to buy early commercials on Christian radio. They organized meetings and conference calls for candidates to speak privately with moderate and conservative members of the clergy.

In an interview, she said she told candidates not to use the phrase “separation of church and state,” which does not appear in the Constitution’s clauses forbidding the establishment or protecting the exercise of religion.

she still struggles with common evangelical ideas about abortion, homosexuality and the literal reading of Scripture.

She was baptized by full immersion in Rock Creek in Washington, D.C., while working with Sojourners, an evangelical antipoverty group. She entered politics by working with a group advocating debt relief for the developing world, once participating in a rally organized by a coalition that included the AIDS activist group Act Up.

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2008/07/02/eric_sapp_140x140.jpg

Mr. Sapp, 30, a Presbyterian minister’s son

Eric Sapp is Senior Partner at Common Good Strategies. Prior to joining CGS, Eric worked in Rep. David Price’s (NC-04) D.C. office, where he handled faith and politics, budget, tax, and homeland security issues

advising those who supported abortion rights to speak about reducing demand for the procedure

many liberal Christians, which is to argue that Jesus was interested only in social justice and not in sexual morality.

they told Democratic candidates not to try to fake it, advising those of non-Christian faiths or no faith at all to talk about the origins of their sense of ethics.

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Jul 2 2008: Eric Sapp:

Before George Bush corrupted it, the faith-based initiative was a valuable programme, and Barack Obama is right to support it

Apr 14 2008: Eric Sapp:

US elections 2008: At Sunday’s meeting between Obama, Clinton and religious leaders, hot-button issues like abortion were laid aside

Eric Sapp is the Senior Partner at Common Good Strategies. Prior to joining CGS, Eric worked for Senator Edward Kennedy and then for Representative David Price.

Founded in the summer of 2005, Common Good Strategies (CGS) is a political strategy firm dedicated to helping Democrats reclaim the debate on faith and values. CGS works with Democratic elected officials, candidates, and social justice-minded non-profits to develop and implement religious outreach programs that improve relationships and understanding with the religious community.

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ACT UP listed as the Top Ten
most influential social justice organizations in
the United States during the past thirty years

* The United States HIV Ban on Travel and Immigration
laws protecting Amerika’s ever-paranoid xenophobia.

* harsh remembrance
The legacy of this Pope is of a man who
watched millions die from AIDS while actively
preventing access to condoms which
could have saved their lives.

* Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. perpetuated the myth that AIDS can be spread by casual contact when he counseled President Ronald Reagan

ACT UP is a diverse, non-partisan group of individuals united in anger
and committed to direct action to end the AIDS crisis.

We advise and inform. We demonstrate.
WE ARE NOT SILENT

Agitate! Resist!

“Living with AIDS in this country is like living through a war
that’s happening only for those people in the trenches.
.
“Every time a shell explodes you look around .
to discover that you’ve lost more of your friends.
But nobody else notices, it isn’t happening to them.”

http://66.230.220.70/images/post/twonations/14.jpg

The history of Civil Disobedience is a long and international one.

ACT UP practices a form that comes from a variety of progressive movements.


22 posted on 08/16/2008 2:24:02 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: pissant

‘Common Good Strategies’ Featured In ‘Atlantic Monthly’ Piece

February 8, 2007 – Mara Vanderslice’s leftist public relations firm has recently benefited from a piece on it by Hanna Rosin in the January/February 2007 Atlantic Monthly.

Last week, TVC exposed the far left background of Vanderslice and her effort to help Democrats use “God talk” in their campaign speeches.

The article notes that Vanderslice worked with seven candidates and all seven won their elections in 2006

The Atlantic Monthly article reveals even more about Vanderslice’s strategies to encourage Democrats to use deceitful words in discussing such topics as abortion. According to Rosin, Vanderslice helped candidates “create a new language to use in talking about faith and values, aimed in part at neutralizing hot-button issues.”

Vanderslice and her staffers “banned the word choice and pushed reduction, going one step further with Clinton’s idea that abortion should be ‘safe, legal, and rare.’”
“When anti-gay-marriage amendments came up, for example, they expanded the issue and talked about how many marriages were disintegrating because of financial stress, which they name as the No. 1 cause of divorce in America,” said Rosin.

Vanderslice advised her candidates to talk about serving others; promoting the common good; protecting the environment as God’s creation, and alleviating poverty.
Vanderslice says she learned about the importance of religion in the public square because “she grew up in Colorado, in the shadow of what she calls the ‘hateful rhetoric’ of the religious right.” (Colorado Springs is the home of hundreds of Christian ministries.)

Vanderslice grew up in Boulder, a hotbed of leftist activity. She was a member of the Earlham Socialist Alliance in college.)

Vanderslice worked as an intern for Jim Wallis’ Sojourners organization shortly after leaving college. Wallis was apparently an effective mentor for her – and her organization is getting free publicity through liberal publications and media outlets.

TVC’s report on Jim Wallis reveals his leftist agenda.

http://www.traditionalvalues.org/pdf_files/jim_wallis.pdf

Wallis is also a darling of
the liberal media. He is often
quoted in articles critical of
conservative Christians or of
President Bush’s faith.

For example, in October
2004, Wallis published a commentary in his magazine,
Sojourners, claiming that the “The Religious
Right Era Is Over.”

While Wallis was in seminary, he founded an anticapitalist
magazine called Post-American. In it, Wallis
called for the redistribution of wealth and governmentmanaged
economies. This anti-capitalist worldview is
expressed in religious terms as a quest for “social justice.”
In 1971, Wallis moved his Post-American operation to
Washington, DC and renamed it Sojourners.

During the 2006 elections, Common Good Strategies recruited liberal pastors to write editorials for her candidate clients and encouraged candidates to purchase ads on Christian radio stations.

In Michigan, Common Good met with more than 500 conservative to moderate ministers to convince them to support Democrat candidates.

“Christian voters must be alert to the deceitful tactics being used by Vanderslice to create candidates who appear to be committed ‘Christians’ but who are actually wolves in sheep’s clothing,” said TVC Executive Director Andrea Lafferty. “Vanderslice is urging candidates to use manipulative wording to fool Christians into voting for them. Once in office they will impose a liberal agenda on us.”

http://www.traditionalvalues.org/modules.php?sid=3003


23 posted on 08/16/2008 2:30:35 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: pissant
Kirbyjon Caldwell, the Houston pastor

Supports the murder of live black babies.

A real "family" man and pastor.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach Adonai
24 posted on 08/16/2008 2:34:41 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 78:35 And they remembered that God was their ROCK, And the Most High God their Redeemer.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
It is not what Obama says tonight. . .it is simply; HOW he says it. And he will no doubt, being working additionally hard to make it sound like his brand of 'Christianity' is the same as that shared by all Christians.

Of course, it is not; but with questions the 'same'; it is clear he will not be asked how Black Liberation Theology has informed/influenced him; all these years he has embraced this 'faith' so shared at Trinity United Church of Christ.

25 posted on 08/16/2008 3:21:21 PM PDT by cricket (Damn Political Correctness; before it irretrievably, damns us all. . .)
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To: kcvl
From "45 Communist Goals":

#27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion.

26 posted on 08/16/2008 3:37:41 PM PDT by cricket (Damn Political Correctness; before it irretrievably, damns us all. . .)
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To: pissant
who has admitted to cheating on his first wife with the blond mistress who became his second and current wife

When did McCain admit that? I guess this is aimed towards the author in the liberal Dallas paper, but if you know, please jump in. ;)

27 posted on 08/16/2008 3:53:20 PM PDT by GOPyouth (GOP: Drill Here, Drill Now! Obama: Inflate your tires!)
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To: pissant
No one but the people directly involved in John McCain's first marriage know what really happened. And I'm sure (being divorced myself) that his ex-wife might give a different explanation from his. But the point is, he was captured and tortured by the North Vietnamese and when he came home, he was NOT the same man physically, mentally or emotionally as he had been when he kissed his wife and went to war.

At the same time, the First Mrs. McCain was alone all those years growing distant from the memories of the fighter pilot she kissed goodbye. Her role in her family changed. She changed.

This does not in any way excuse John McCain or his first wife, either, for the way they treated each other when he got back from 'Nam. They were two totally different people who no longer had much in common.

I'm guessing here, so stay with me: She didn't like him acting like a husband and telling her how to do things or putting limits on her activities so she could be with him. He'd been gone a long time and she had developed her own social network and it didn't include him. She couldn't go back to "newly wed" with this man she really no longer knew. He needed more than she could or was willing to give and he needed someone to understand the stress he'd been subjected to in 'Nam. She was not the girl he married. He was not the boy she married. They were two people sharing the same last name and living in the same house. They were no longer a "couple."

Doesn't give him a right to go find someone who'd listen to him and understand him. But he did. And that is all water under the bridge. It's over. There's no going back. I have heard or read people's comments about him, mostly negative, but those people weren't there with the First Mrs. McCain helping her to remain the same person all those years John McCain was gone, were they? No, they had their lives to live. Well so did she. And when John McCain came back from 'Nam, like so many military men, the first marriage was already so changed that he couldn't fit the role his First Wife wanted and she could not fit the role he needed.

I wasn't there, you weren't there, so let's forgive the man his humanity and his First Wife her humanity and allow John McCain to be the man he is and our Candidate for POTUS.

28 posted on 08/16/2008 3:59:15 PM PDT by HighlyOpinionated (The World is a Tragedy for Those Who Feel (Democrats) but a Comedy to Those Who Think (Republicans).)
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To: HighlyOpinionated

Are you directing this at me. I’ve never piled on McCain for whatever happened to his 1st marriage. I could not care less. But I am keenly interested if a sitting state Senator from Illinois was engaging in homo sex while smoking crack in 1999.


29 posted on 08/16/2008 4:01:59 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

The latest by obambi is :

BARACKOBAMA.COM SENDING OUT EMAILS CLAIMING TO BE LARRY SINCLAIR AND APOLOGIZING


30 posted on 08/16/2008 5:31:38 PM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: ModelBreaker

She probably has an arsenal of weapons hidden in her underwear drawer. “You be good now, Barry.”


31 posted on 08/16/2008 5:58:46 PM PDT by JillValentine (Being a feminist is all about being a victim. Being an armed woman is all about not being a victim.)
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To: pissant

If the pastor thinks he’s helping Obama or Blacks by endorsing the One, he is wrong. He simply reinforced the perception that most Blacks, when it comes to politics, prefer somebody else that share their pigment color.


32 posted on 08/16/2008 7:24:10 PM PDT by paudio (Kerry had Global Test, Obama has Global Tax.)
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To: JillValentine
“You be good now, Barry.”

"Oh honey, I'm a very good boy. What? Oh no, I have never even thought of another woman's breasts. Really. Well, OK, once. But not for very long and it was a very long time ago. Oh Michelle, please not again. I'll try to do better, really . . . "

33 posted on 08/16/2008 11:39:09 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: pissant
Are you directing this at me.

No, I was NOT directing that at you, but at the article you referenced. Just reminding everyone that no one except the particulars knows what really happened in John McCain's divorce. He answered the Rick Warren Question quite well and took responsibility for his divorce. I think that was VERY revealing of the man and of his character, integrity and honesty.

You have always (in the forums I've read) been very level handed with your responses and very rational in your replies. AKA "You Rock, Pissant!"
34 posted on 08/17/2008 11:36:34 AM PDT by HighlyOpinionated (The World is a Tragedy for Those Who Feel (Democrats) but a Comedy to Those Who Think (Republicans).)
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To: pissant

Latest from Larry Sinclair - he’s going to visit obambi’s new office in Minnesota!

ANYONE LIVING IN THE NORTHLANDS OF MINNESOTA’S IRON RANGE THAT WANTS TO JOIN ME IN VIRGINIA ON TUESDAY AUGUST 19, 2008 TO PROTEST THE OBAMA CAMPAIGNS OPENING OF ITS OFFICES IN VIRGINA CONTACT ME AT LWS022737@AOL.COM.

I AM MAKING PROTEST POSTERS NOW TO DEMAND THAT THE OBAMA CAMPAIGN BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE AND BE REQUIRED TO ANSWER TO THE CHARGES OF HIS GAY EXTRA MARITAL AFFAIRS WITH ME AND DONALD YOUNG AND HIS CRACK COCAINE USE IN 1999., AS WELL AS OBAMA’S INVOLVEMENT IN THE MURDER OF DONALD YOUNG.


35 posted on 08/17/2008 9:43:40 PM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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