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21 posted on 08/16/2008 12:11:47 PM PDT by XR7
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One question to Rick Warren, "Where did Jesus go in your church? That's right, your church, no one else's, it's all about you, your issues, your books, your agendas, your HIV baloney, your climate control issues...where is there TIME for Jesus? Saddleback church has gone the way of crystal cthedral, the way of Tilton, the way of Tammy and Jim baker,

Is 59:14--Justice is turned back, and righteousness stands afar off; for truth is fallen in the street, and equity cannot enter

"...we shall not 'demonize' anyone here...." Rick Warren...Nope not me, I just see the fruit of the labors of man encouraging man, not man humbling too much to God, like the Pharisees of old, no prayer prior to the debate in the HOUSE of God?

" Therefore whatsoever they tell you to observe and do but do not according to their works; for they say, and do NOT do. For they bind heavy burdens, hard to bear , and lay them on mens shoulders ( still listening to Obama stuttering , Rick Warren finishing sentences for the bumbler and a lot of clapping for ...what??); but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers.

But all their works they do to be seen by men. They make their phylacteries( or in this case presidendial cufff links and little American flags while the man that was tortured is too "old" where once wisdom applied to age,now the 'world view...) broad and enlarge the borders of their garments...Mt 23:3-5

---Now stumbling on the 40,000,000 dead babies...oops zygotes??---pro choice but not because he's pro abortion" what the heck is he saying??--- ---limits on late terms abortions...did I just hear a lie? Oops take the beam out of my eye Karliner and shove the sliver deep in the politicians..----

Mt 23:11 and etc---( Jesus words[while listening him hem and haw on gay marriage....whoa] "But he who is greatest among you shall be your servant. And whoever exalts himself among will humbled and he who is humbles himself will be exalted.But woe to you ( paraphrased,Senators and politicians and big church pastors that have lost their way)for you shut up the kingdom of heaven against men; for you neither go in yourselves nor do you allow those with your entering in. Woe to you (paraphrased________ and_______ for you devour widows houses, and for a pretense make long prayers. Therefore you will receive greater condemnation.

Woe to you______ and ________ for you travel land and sea( Afghanistan for three hours to play basketball, and Iraq to pretend he's the rezident prezident[oh my heart do not judge])to win one proselyte(vote?) and when he is won, you will make him twice as much a son of hell as yourselves. Woe to you blind guides( more clapping for all the change) who say,'whoever swears by this temple( maybe swear on this Bible regarding upholding the constitution and amendments and fight for freedom---oh slams Rick Warren regarding his book sales..I'm clapping on that one)it is nothing but whoever swears by the gold of the temple he is OBLIGED to perform it( either candidate).'

Fools and blind! For which is greater the gold or the temple that sanctifies the gold( was that Obama's grandfather who liberated Auschwitz for the USSR??)?And, whoever swears by the altar, it is nothing: but whoever swears by the gift that is on it, he is OBLIGED to perform it. Fools and blind! For which is greater the gift or the altar that sanctifies the gift? Therefore he who swears by the altar, swears by it and all things on it. He who swears by the temple swears by it and by HIM who dwells in it. And he who swears by heaven swears by the throne of God and by Him who sits on it.( Why do you want to be president....uh oh an analogy by his mother...the atheist)."

Woe to you Scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for you pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and and have neglected the weightier matters( which issues are primary/secondary?) of the law: justice and mercy and faith. These you ought to have done, without leaving the others undone." End Mt. 23:23

Hmm, Here comes McCain, to readers, I'm writing this as not just a typing exercise, a biblical study for myself, but to listen to both views and Rick Warren also. Yep I don't really like all three of them for one thing or another but that doesn't mean they're bad people. I won't buy or listen to Warren because he's strayed and watered down the doctrine. I don't believe over half of Obama's and about half of McCains political mumbo jumbo ...but I'll respect and honor the CiC ....might not like him like Bubbha and others but I'll pray for them throughout their term)This will also be a great thread to bookmark, not for my post but for ALL the other intelligent posters that have incredible insight not just in politics, but in the history of the candidates, and so much more. I am humbled daily by freepers, keep it going

"Blind guides who strain out a gnat and swallow a camel.( ha ha Daily KOS..I couldn't help a shot at the moonbatville/code pinkos socialists)[ yay offshore drilling gets cheers, but needs to work on Arnie's accent]Woe to Scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites!For you cleanse the outside of the cup and dish, but inside they are full of extortion and self-indulgence. Blind Pharisee, first cleanse the inside of the cup and dish, that the outside of them may be clean also.

Woe to you scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you are like white washed tombs which indeed appear clean outwardly, but inside are full of dead men's bones and all uncleanness. Woe to you scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! Because you build the tombs of the prophets and adorn the monuments of the righteous,( sort of like McCain's analogies, especially the one of the Vietnamese guard and the prisoner,he.)( "From the moment of conception" YES read Jer 1:5)...and say,'If we had lived in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets.'"

" Therefore you are witnesses against yourselves( Defeat evil wooooOOOOOO!!!...dang I hope this isn't all glitter)that you are sons of those who murdered the prophets. Fill up, then, the measure of your fathers guilt. Serpents, brood of vipers, How can you escape the condemnation of hell?" Jesus Matthew 23:3-33 with some omissions due to time with my paraphrases, inceptions, analogies while watching Rick Warren's interview, at his church McCain vs Obama....)I may have leaned a bit more toward McCain...like a LOT

Home schooling works...buh bye ACLU...defamation of religion....UN time to face your own evil!!

1,063 posted on 08/16/2008 6:32:04 PM PDT by Karliner ("Things are more like they are now than they ever were before. DDE)
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