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To: stig

“My proposal. Russia has certainly put us on notice that they are not our friend. We need to secure Poland as part of NATO. We need major military installations in Poland to help protect their independence. In Georgia we take what we can get for the time being. We work geopolitically after we safeguard Poland to pressure Russia into leaving a majority Georgia alone. “
We must include the Baltic States and Ukraine in your plan which is a good one. But I don;t see Bush having the nerve to do it. Nor Obama. McCain - maybe.


24 posted on 08/16/2008 8:03:24 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: ZULU

If the United States were in the position of the Europeans, being dependent on Russia for heat this winter, I have not the slightest doubt that most of our politicians and more than half of our population would be falling over backwards to appease the Russians. Conservative values and with it the willingness of a people to stand up to tyranny has been largely relegated to the dust bins of history. While I believe in time it will rise again, it will be after my limited lifetime.


35 posted on 08/16/2008 10:19:48 AM PDT by brydic1
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To: ZULU
We must include the Baltic States and Ukraine in your plan which is a good one. But I don;t see Bush having the nerve to do it. Nor Obama. McCain - maybe.

Agreed. Good news today it seems the Germans have stepped up to the plate and proposed Georgia become a member of NATO. Also Ukraine has become much more proactive in its proposals for the US missle shield.

I agree with you that no major miltary operations are going to occur before Nov. But I think that Bush will act after the election. One because if Obama wins it forces the Dems to deal with the situation and if McCain wins it gives McCain political cover that he is just mopping up for what Bush started.

37 posted on 08/17/2008 9:35:25 AM PDT by stig
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