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To: fightinJAG

“Mr Saakashvili was humiliated further when the final text of the agreement, delivered personally by Condoleezza Rice, the US Secretary of State, removed a reference to Russian recognition of Georgia’s territorial integrity. It referred only to independence and sovereignty, a day after Ser-gei Lavrov, the Russian Foreign Minister, said that the world could forget about Georgia’s territorial integrity. “

It looks like the media WAS right when it stated that Rice forced the Georgians to accept Russian incursions into its territory anywhere and anytime.

Bush is a catastrophe and Rice is the executor of an idiotic and flawed foreign policy. Our credibility with Eastern Europe has been destroyed by Mr. Bush and we can look forward to more aggression in the future from Putin and pressure from dissidnet pro-Russian elements in all of Easstern Europe.

Great job Jorge!!! Maybe Mexico will be allowed to conduct military incursions into the U.S. next.


10 posted on 08/16/2008 4:46:33 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: ZULU
Our credibility with Eastern Europe has been destroyed by Mr. Bush and we can look forward to more aggression in the future from Putin and pressure from dissidnet pro-Russian elements in all of Easstern Europe.

Yeah. In view of the war in Kosovo, bravely fought for moslems by the NATO/US, it is a cool statement.

17 posted on 08/16/2008 5:36:04 AM PDT by Words
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To: ZULU
It looks like the media WAS right when it stated that Rice forced the Georgians to accept Russian incursions into its territory anywhere and anytime.

Bush is a catastrophe and Rice is the executor of an idiotic and flawed foreign policy. Our credibility with Eastern Europe has been destroyed by Mr. Bush and we can look forward to more aggression in the future from Putin and pressure from dissidnet pro-Russian elements in all of Easstern Europe.

The alternative being what? The Dem. speaker of the house doing exactly what to push back the Russian invasion. Obama has proposed something??

In your statement you just wine. I am so sick of people wining without taking any stand, without proposing a solution of their own.

In my mind there is not a lot we could do. The Russian timing is such that we are busy elsewhere. They also took advantage of the fact that we are also close to Presidential election (no president is going to commit troops against a major power this close to an election when their is no direct impact on the US). They (the Russians) have a lot to do with the problems in the middle east due to their support of Iran, that keeps us busy in Iraq while they cake walk over Georgia.

Another issue is if you were to meet the Russian aggression in Georgia. What do you do if they decide to use that as an excuse to take over Poland? The Europeans aren't set up to protect themselves. They can't make a decision to save their lives. We will get only an argument from them as to what to do about a Russian incursion into Poland.

My proposal. Russia has certainly put us on notice that they are not our friend. We need to secure Poland as part of NATO. We need major military installations in Poland to help protect their independence. In Georgia we take what we can get for the time being. We work geopolitically after we safeguard Poland to pressure Russia into leaving a majority Georgia alone. You're not going to get the full pre-incursion borders back unless your willing to declare war. With the current political climate here in the US I don't see how that is possible. Too many pacifists here who are willing to sell out anybody and everybody inorder to safe guard their own lives over the short term.

19 posted on 08/16/2008 6:17:59 AM PDT by stig
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