Posted on 08/15/2008 2:27:26 PM PDT by XR7
A little background on the hostility you are finding here.
It was your brave countrymen who raped and burned everything all the way from the Dniepr to Berlin, “liberating” countries along the way, who mass murdered in Katyn, who raped Hungary, Czechoslovakia, Poland, and other countries, and got away with it all to this very day. Credibility? Zero, zilch, goose egg!
Compare yourself to the forever guiltridden Germans!
Dude, be a man and give me a call. If you accuse me, stand up to your word. You sit behind your computer feeling brave ya? Be a man
I do not want to repeat myself; I said all I could. You dismiss everything I say because “I didn’t mention I was Russian”; alright, what do you want me to do to prove that it wasn’t intentional huh?
If any of you doubt my sincerity, why don’t you call me? Any of you? Any of you really care about the truth huh? You accuse me of being a liar and a hypocrite; what, you say I don’t have relatives in Abkhazia, or I’m not from the region, or what am I lying about huh? What am I not sincere about huh? It’s easy for all of you to type anything you want but then you don’t answer for your words.
As I wrote on my initial post, I am grateful for America, and I wrote later that I don’t support Putin in general, so stop ignoring my words, and actually listen to what I am saying
I love freedom and civilization. Why are you accusing me of non-sense?
Hey,
First, thank you for showing me at least some respect. Everybody thinks I am just lying. Great.
As far as the whole war thing—again, you say that “s for the Western media, why is it that the Eastern media, in the countries formerly occupied by your countrymen, agrees with the misinforming American MSM”. Well, again, this info you got from the American press. Actually, the Chechens, with whom the Russians have fought for a LONG time, joined Russia during this war here (against Georgia). I think they sent something like 2000 troops to help. Well, of course, nobody told you about that because it would be against the general bias.
Again, I am not claiming that Russia is innocent, I am NOT. If they killed innocent people (and they obviously have), that is very wrong. What I am saying, essentially is the Georgia carries more blame, and it is unthinkable that we are painting them as “innocent and harmless”
I never said they are not growing their economy, but the “less-corrupt” part is really a joke. Yesterday Saakashvili said that we (Georgians) are “corruption-free”. Haha. If you were from any of the former Soviet Union countries, you would know how stupid that statement sounds
I believe you would be able to tell easier that I am sincere. Maybe not. I just have a problem with all of you writing bunch of accusations, and hiding behind your computer. That’s not manly at all (and I assume most of you here are men)
Also, people seem to think I’m a “crazy propaganda machine” or something. That bothers me. If we talked, it seems that would help
Stop booting me from “your” country. It is a country of immigrants, if you remember. I love this country; i dislike the leaders and the media right now.
Wow, yes, thank you so much for that information. You think I don’t know that people are evil? I do. Of course there are instances of people killing and massacring others—and you are defending another one of those people Saakashvili.
You know, it would be one thing to just blame Russia for whatever, but all of you paint Saakashvili as this blameless angel; you know that sounds pretty ridiculous
Whew!
I guess they don’t call you “dirtboy” for nothin’!
By the way, there was ethnic cleansing of Abkhazians by Georgians. Tell the whole story ya? Like I said in post 101, its a brutal war. Georgians hate Abkhazians, and Abkhazians hate Georgians; they want to kill one another.
In the 1992 war we first saw Abkhazians massacred, then we saw Georgians massacred.
See post #130. That’s believable.
12% FLAT TAX in Georgia.
I knew a Georgian woman who told me about that being on television in Georgia.
My family is from a former communist country and I know that the legacy of communism is corruption. They are making steps in the right direction though. Im sure you think this is just capitalist propaganda though.
The World Bank recognized Georgia as the world's fastest-reforming economy in its 2008 "Doing Business" report, ranking it as the world's 18th easiest place to do business, in the same league as countries such as Germany, Sweden, and Estonia. The World Bank's "Anti-Corruption in Transition 3" report places Georgia among the countries showing the most dramatic improvement in the struggle against corruption, due to implementation of key economic and institutional reforms, and reported reduction in the bribes paid by firms in the course of doing business.
http://www.state.gov/r/pa/ei/bgn/5253.htm
I must emphasize that the Eastern Eurpoean media don't take their orders from the left wing American MSM, and in those countries, you will find a whole range of views in the press, not all pro-American, but as far as I can tell, all or most pro-Georgian.
Other than that, please ignore, if you don't already, the lame "go back to Cuba, if you don't like it here" posts!
And when were you last in Georgia?
He really said that?
You're not being objective.
Maybe, maybe not. I did document up thread that ~30K ethnic Georgians were masacered and 270,000 other ethnic Georgian were forced to leave Abkhasia.
Can you document the same about Georgians against Abkhazians.
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