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The Russian ultimatum
The Messenger ^ | Thursday, August 14 | M. Alkhazashvili

Posted on 08/14/2008 8:02:32 PM PDT by MarMema

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1 posted on 08/14/2008 8:02:32 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: redstateconfidential

Georgian press with some interesting information.


2 posted on 08/14/2008 8:03:53 PM PDT by MarMema (Tavisuplebas dideba!)
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To: MarMema
If I were President Bush I'd have a list of five things I'd do immediately in order to 'encourage' Russia to withdraw completely from Georgia.

If Putin refused, I'd have a list of 5 more things I'd do to force Russian troops out.

L

3 posted on 08/14/2008 8:07:47 PM PDT by Lurker (Islam is an insane death cult. Any other aspects are PR to get them within throat-cutting range.)
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Just see how honorable these people are under duress...

"What do you think Georgians were celebrating yesterday: victory, defeat or …?

“The Georgian people were celebrating a spiritual victory. Yes, we know we have taken an unprecedented and maybe foolish step by waking up the most horrible monster, but we didn’t have any alternative. Our conflict with them connected with the frozen conflict zones would have lasted forever. So I regret what has happened, but it was inevitable.”

“What? None of the above! We were celebrating our unity and firmness, and the fact that we do not seek the opportunity to use things against our President, regardless of whether we like or dislike him. We are with him at this time despite his many past mistakes.”

“We simply expressed solidarity towards each other. We have nothing to celebrate.”

“I really don’t know what they were celebrating, because I think that today we have nothing to celebrate. When so many Georgians are being killed even now it is not appropriate to go round with happy faces.”

“The highlight of the rally was Bokeria’s speech and the people applauding him. I was shocked that people who hate him were applauding while he was speaking in front of Parliament. I am sure that even Bokeria have never imagined that one day people would greet him in such a way.”

“I was there, and was celebrating neither victory nor defeat - we just expressed support for our country and our government, and that Georgians are united as ever, are not a defeated nation and never will be.”

4 posted on 08/14/2008 8:07:49 PM PDT by MarMema (Tavisuplebas dideba!)
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i thought sarkozy was advertised as being a sharp knife in the drawer. now this.


5 posted on 08/14/2008 8:09:59 PM PDT by ken21 (people die and you never hear from them again.)
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Saakashvili announced that Georgia is withdrawing from the CIS and that Abkhazia and Tskhinvali are now regarded as occupied territories and the Russian army as an occupation force. The Georgian population and the political opposition have long demanded that these steps be taken, but neither the Shevardnadze administration nor the present one has previously dared to do so. Parliament has to go through a formal process of ratifying this decision and the President has to sign the subsequent decree. But if this happens Russia will no longer be able to claim it is automatically the regional peacekeeper, however much the Kremlin continues to declare otherwise, without of course consulting those whose peace it presumes to keep.


6 posted on 08/14/2008 8:15:00 PM PDT by redstateconfidential (A man who lets his friends down, is no man at all.)
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Chilling stuff, ain’t it?


7 posted on 08/14/2008 8:17:25 PM PDT by MarMema (Tavisuplebas dideba!)
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Bush needs to ask the Georgian President if its ok to have a Fly-Over zone and send some F-16 overhead to “keep the peace”...A few dropped bombs in nearby locations next to the Russian tanks might send a stronger message than “we strongly disapprove”...The time for action is NOW, TODAY...Russia has its plans set - full regression to the Soviet Empire! McCain is RIGHT - can you say KGB, Mr. Putin? Communist murderer...


8 posted on 08/14/2008 8:17:26 PM PDT by princess leah
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It just occurd to me what is going on. 1st, don’t look for russia leaving Georgia anytime soon.They will divide the country , georgia south and russia north. Russia will take over the ports on the black sea. They have to if they want a warm warer port. You see, once the Ukraine becomes part of NATO, it was a prety sure bet Russia was gonna lose it’s port at Sevastopol.So, they are gonna need Poti to service their fleet. Face it ladies and gentlemen, Russia will be digging in and they ain’t leaving.


9 posted on 08/14/2008 8:19:24 PM PDT by eastforker (Get-R-Done and then Bring-Em- Home)
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10 posted on 08/14/2008 8:19:32 PM PDT by redstateconfidential (A man who lets his friends down, is no man at all.)
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yes.

i think a strong positions is called for.

otherwise, europe’s going to be treated the way the ukraine was by russia.

a military trip wire would be ok with me.


11 posted on 08/14/2008 8:20:36 PM PDT by ken21 (people die and you never hear from them again.)
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To: eastforker; Jeff Head

ping to post 9


12 posted on 08/14/2008 8:20:49 PM PDT by eastforker (Get-R-Done and then Bring-Em- Home)
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Good observation.


13 posted on 08/14/2008 8:21:13 PM PDT by redstateconfidential (A man who lets his friends down, is no man at all.)
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check this out

"Reuters witnesses on Thursday saw Russian troops in (key central Georgian towns)...

"We have no idea what they are doing there ... why such a heavy force," Georgian Prime Minister Lado Gurgenidze said during a teleconference. "One explanation could be that they are just trying to battle the civilian population."

No lack of humor here, I am thinking....this made me laugh

14 posted on 08/14/2008 8:22:34 PM PDT by MarMema (Tavisuplebas dideba!)
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"The world must unite to stop Russia for one simple reason: who is next?"

Russia has claimed the North Pole and Artic regions as its own. Soon they will start claiming Alaska just to annoy the US. I wouldn't be suprised if they made a move on Alaska sometime in the future.

15 posted on 08/14/2008 8:23:30 PM PDT by StormEye
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Read post 9, they will not leave and any attempt to remove russia from geargia will be the start of WWIII,Russia can not do without a warm water port.


16 posted on 08/14/2008 8:25:11 PM PDT by eastforker (Get-R-Done and then Bring-Em- Home)
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I wish we had as many Seal/Ranger units as press drones are over there.
Did you see the Georgian Lady Reporter take a bullet ? My God, one of our yapping heads would have collapsed and retired, and I’m talking about Anderson Cooper!


17 posted on 08/14/2008 8:25:39 PM PDT by redstateconfidential (A man who lets his friends down, is no man at all.)
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The peace agreement brokered by Sarkozy contains a clause allowing Moscow’s forces “to implement additional security measures” while awaiting international monitors.”

Oh you $#@^&*(! Frogs!


18 posted on 08/14/2008 8:27:47 PM PDT by redstateconfidential (A man who lets his friends down, is no man at all.)
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To: eastforker

I’m inclined to agree with you. I read an article not long ago that tied the possible political situations in the entire area together. (Eastern Europe and the Middle East)

It reminds me of a real life chess game.


19 posted on 08/14/2008 8:36:46 PM PDT by berdie
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I’m thinking, or hoping, that the lights are burning in the five-sided building tonight.


20 posted on 08/14/2008 8:39:20 PM PDT by CaptRon (Pedicaris alive or Raisuli dead)
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