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Photo of Barry Soetero school registration in Indonesia (as Indonesian citizen) Is this real?
AP ^ | 13 August 2008

Posted on 08/13/2008 4:29:21 PM PDT by SE Mom

This registration document, made available on Jan. 24, 2007, by the Fransiskus Assisi school in Jakarta, Indonesia, shows the registration of Barack Obama under the name Barry Soetoro into the Catholic school made by his step-father, Lolo Soetoro. The document lists Barry Soetoro as a Indonesian citizen, born on August 4, 1961 in Honolulu, and shows his Muslim step-father listed the boy's religion as Islam.(AP Photo/ Tatan Syuflana)


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: barackobama; barrysoetoro; catholicschools; certifigate; colbaquiddic; election2008; hussein; husseinobama; indonesia; islam; mohammedanism; obama; obamafamily; obamasama; osamabama; soetoro
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To: SatinDoll

Indonesia does not accept dual citizenship.


81 posted on 08/13/2008 5:12:21 PM PDT by expatpat
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To: the anti-liberal; Polarik

Exactly! As soon as Polarik gets his freepmail I’m sure he’ll get on it.

Or- some other enterprising freeper!


82 posted on 08/13/2008 5:13:42 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: Jemian
It doesn’t look valid to me. I can’t be sure because there are things about Indo that I don’t know. But all the Indo forms I have seen filled out have an official stamp on them. I don’t see that on this page. Nor is there any place for an official signature.

It doesn't purport to be an official government document. It's merely a record kept by a school.

I don't see any reason to doubt its authenticity. It confirms he was going by "Barry" at that time and it echoes his birth place and date. Which means the birth coverup, if it is a coverup, got an early start.

Here's an excerpt from an article in the Jakarta Post:

Israella Darmawan is every inch a teacher, from her shiny cap of black hair to her sensible shoes. In an office at the Fransiskus Assisi School, she shows me an old register with an entry for Barry Soetoro, as Barack Obama was know then. Bu Is taught Obama in the first grade. She admits she doesn't remember all her students well, but Barry ... well, he stood out.

"He really was different from the others. He was tall and heavy, black skin, curly hair."

Obama struggled with Indonesian, she says, but he was clearly a bright kid, especially at math. He had natural leadership qualities, she adds; other kids followed him around during playtime. "Barack ran somewhere, they went. He ran somewhere else, they followed."


83 posted on 08/13/2008 5:14:08 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: SE Mom
From Wikipedia:

It is thought the origin of the natural-born citizen clause can be traced to a letter of July 25, 1787 from John Jay to George Washington, presiding officer of the Constitutional Convention. John Jay wrote:

"Permit me to hint, whether it would be wise and seasonable to provide a strong check to the admission of Foreigners into the administration of our national Government; and to declare expressly that the Commander in Chief of the American army shall not be given to nor devolve on, any but a natural born Citizen."

There was no debate, and this qualification for the office of the Presidency was introduced by the drafting Committee of Eleven, and then adopted without discussion by the Constitutional Convention.

84 posted on 08/13/2008 5:14:51 PM PDT by Plutarch
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To: SE Mom

Why would the Associated Press go to such effort? Am I the only person here who sees Hillary’s fingerprints on this?


85 posted on 08/13/2008 5:15:06 PM PDT by Does so (...against all enemies, DOMESTIC and foreign...)
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To: mojito
Every Moslem student on Earth who has a father who attends a mosque is given lessons in Classical Arabic so that he can understand the standard prayers, understand the call to worship, and read the Koran (to a certain extent).

So why would Indonesian Moslem kids be exempt?

86 posted on 08/13/2008 5:15:51 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: SE Mom

That’s one hell of an ink they used back in 1961. Not even faded.


87 posted on 08/13/2008 5:19:16 PM PDT by CodeToad
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To: autumnraine

This has been out for a year already.


88 posted on 08/13/2008 5:20:06 PM PDT by WilliamReading
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To: muawiyah

Yes, you’re right- as a child he had little or no choice in how he was raised and schooled.

He is not an adult, by all accounts, and is running for the most powerful position in the world. He wants to lead our country. He has NOT been forthcoming about his background, that at one time he had a different name and was adopted by his stepfather.

Are you saying he is now, as an adult, UNAWARE of these years in his childhood? That he would further be unaware of the importance of letting America know these things about him?

As to Winston Churchill and his family- the comparison is not apt.


89 posted on 08/13/2008 5:20:47 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: the anti-liberal
If citizenship were simply a matter of allegiance, but citizenship is NOT a matter of allegiance. It's a legal status conferred by a government ~ a state ~

Plenty of countries have vast hordes of citizens who have no allegiance to the state that confers that citizenship.

To wit, South Ossetia!

90 posted on 08/13/2008 5:21:39 PM PDT by muawiyah
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Should have been “he is NOW an adult” NOT “not an adult”


91 posted on 08/13/2008 5:21:41 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: WilliamReading

In his biography, he said he studied the Koran. He also recited the Islamic Call to Prayer in Arabic about a year ago to Paul Krugman of the New York Times.

I don’t think he was ever a devout Muslim. His mother was described as an atheist.


92 posted on 08/13/2008 5:22:03 PM PDT by WilliamReading
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To: All

You guys need to read this daily:

The Obama File
http://theobamafile.com/

Everything about Obama with daily updates.


93 posted on 08/13/2008 5:22:46 PM PDT by patriot08
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To: pissant
The Rather standard. There we decided that you could have a "memo" or something that looked like a "memo" but the contents could be fraudulent.

Dan thought the opposite. He's still holding onto the "fake but real" standard.

Do you want to join Dan Rather?

94 posted on 08/13/2008 5:23:33 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Lurking Libertarian

I live in Michigan. Jennifer Granholm is our Governor. (not bragging, just a fact).

It’s been stated by lots and lots of Journalists, etc back a couple of years ago when she was buddying up with John Kerry, that she would never be able to run as President because of her dual citizenship.

Unless there’s another reason.


95 posted on 08/13/2008 5:24:23 PM PDT by queenkathy (I will never give up and I will never give in)
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To: muawiyah; SatinDoll; pissant
Hold him accountable for his adult life

The adult B. Hussein Obama lied to the American people. It's the lie that's the problem.

96 posted on 08/13/2008 5:25:45 PM PDT by LucyT (What happens in Denver....is anyone's guess....August 25 - 28, 2008)
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To: Jemian

Understood- see post 78


97 posted on 08/13/2008 5:25:59 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: muawiyah
They could be fake. You seemed to say they were. But this info is consistent with other reporting on this from multiple sources.
98 posted on 08/13/2008 5:26:00 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: SE Mom
Right ~ Winston's father died of VD. Too much womanizing, running with whores, drinking, etc. Fially killed the guy.

Winston's mother had numerous affairs, etc.

Again, Obama's mother seems, in retrospect, to have been a well behaved person compared to Winston's mother. The father's are in a horserace and are nearing the finish-line ~ one might win by a nose, eh.

99 posted on 08/13/2008 5:26:32 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: CodeToad
That’s one hell of an ink they used back in 1961. Not even faded.

Really thats not too long ago...we still have well preserved letters written in ink from the founding fathers back from the mid-latter 1700's.

100 posted on 08/13/2008 5:27:18 PM PDT by tflabo (.)
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