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The Russo-Georgian War and the Balance of Power
Stratfor.com ^ | August 12, 2008 | George Friedman

Posted on 08/13/2008 11:39:55 AM PDT by Ravnagora

The Russian invasion of Georgia has not changed the balance of power in Eurasia. It simply announced that the balance of power had already shifted. The United States has been absorbed in its wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, as well as potential conflict with Iran and a destabilizing situation in Pakistan. It has no strategic ground forces in reserve and is in no position to intervene on the Russian periphery. This, as we have argued, has opened a window of opportunity for the Russians to reassert their influence in the former Soviet sphere. Moscow did not have to concern itself with the potential response of the United States or Europe; hence, the invasion did not shift the balance of power. The balance of power had already shifted, and it was up to the Russians when to make this public. They did that Aug. 8.

Let’s begin simply by reviewing the last few days.

(Excerpt) Read more at stratfor.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: alreadyposted; duplicate; georgia; kosovo; repeat; russia; serbia; stratfor; trysearch

1 posted on 08/13/2008 11:39:55 AM PDT by Ravnagora
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To: Ravnagora


2 posted on 08/13/2008 11:47:54 AM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: Ravnagora

It (The US) has no strategic ground forces in reserve and is in no position to intervene on the Russian periphery.


That is why we need to reinstitute the draft and double the military budget. If we don’t, America will no longer be a world power.


3 posted on 08/13/2008 11:51:09 AM PDT by FFranco
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To: TLI

I think Stratfor’s analysis was made obsolete this morning by Bush sending military “humanitarian” forces into Georgia.

They (Stratfor) didn’t see that coming.


4 posted on 08/13/2008 11:55:36 AM PDT by filbert (More filbert at http://www.medary.com)
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To: FFranco
That is why we need to reinstitute the draft and double the military budget. If we don’t, America will no longer be a world power.

Bingo.... But you could never even sell our side of the house on that..

5 posted on 08/13/2008 12:04:17 PM PDT by Riodacat (Legum servi sumus ut liberi esse possimus.)
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To: Ravnagora

I think one thing that needs to happen is that the pansies in Europe need to start carrying their own weight. EU wants to do this and that, fine. How about an EU military force to protect it’s own.


6 posted on 08/13/2008 12:20:03 PM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: filbert; Old Teufel Hunden
A very sobering analysis from the Russian perspective. Add to that the obvious geopolitical significance of Russia physically connecting up with Iran, gaining access to the Persian Gulf in the Indian Ocean, combining for bargaining purposes its oilfields with Iran's. In addition, add to it Russia's move into the Mediterranean with its fleet which is succored by the Syrians at their harbor.

The author is quite right, our involvement in Iraq has left us toothless elsewhere and the Russians have just demonstrated that to Eastern Europe but also to the nations in the Middle East who flirt with terrorists. As the author said: While the United States is tied down in the Middle East, American guarantees have no value.

On the diplomatic front, it is feckless to rely on the Europeans for anything more than double crossing. But in this game the other side has nuclear weapons and now oil and gas upon which whole sections of Europe, including myself here Germany along with my neighbors, are utterly dependent. Worse, much of Europe welcomes the humiliation of America and would love nothing better than to see it so long as it can stand aside.

Domestically, America is at best riven in twain by a leftist, defeatist mentality and it appears to me that the nation is about to lurch even farther to the left in November. It will be as impossible to enlist blue state America in principled resistance to Russian aggression as it will be to get any meaningful cooperation in Europe. If Obama wins as I suspect and fear, there will be no attempt whatsoever.

As to the authors allegations of intelligence breakdown leading up to the Georgian attack, I am not competent nor knowledgeable enough to comment. But I am not sure that that is strictly relevant to the dilemma we face outlined above.

I would dearly like to know just how effective the Russian military really is right now. I understand that they have had petrodollars to lavish on their military, nevertheless, my guess is that what stratofor describes in Georgia is the cream skimmed from the top of the Russian military and the rest is probably still a shambles. I hope some knowledgeable Freepers like MNjonnie can comment because we really ought to know what we're talking about before we play geopolitical chess.


7 posted on 08/13/2008 12:25:44 PM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat attack!" Bull Halsey)
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They looked like an udisciplined mob, the red army that is. Pretty war crimes ready to happen.


8 posted on 08/13/2008 12:29:50 PM PDT by Dead Dog
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To: FFranco

Doubling the military budget is a very good idea, but reinstating the draft isn’t. Take very good care of the military, active and retired, and the ranks will take care of themselves.


9 posted on 08/13/2008 12:40:53 PM PDT by GBA
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To: nathanbedford
"I would dearly like to know just how effective the Russian military really is right now."

Yes, I don't think this shows anything about the Russian military. This was not a large scale military operation by any means and I think its pretty clear by their actions the past five days that they have been training for this specific mission for a while. No one just throws together a two front invasion of ground sea and air components in less than a day. This was tailor made for their demonstration and they have been counting on it.
10 posted on 08/13/2008 12:40:57 PM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: filbert
Check this...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2061195/posts?page=20#20

A good analysis of a somewhat larger view on events which interestingly enough, closely parallels what I wrote yesterday...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2059426/posts?page=55#55

Our moves will be slow to come, some will not be seen, but Putin will figure out that he does not like it. He is playing hotrod today but he is pushing folks to the West that until now might have been just indifferent to Russia.

11 posted on 08/13/2008 1:04:52 PM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: FFranco
That is why we need to reinstitute the draft...

Our troops know that each one of them is a volunteer and each one of them can be trusted to watch his back.

You want to throw a a bunch of losers and f#$%wits into uniform and put them out there. The kind of twits you can see every day on Democratic Underground. Do you seriously expect those pieces of human debris to be watching out for anybody except number one?

You first might ask the men and women already in uniform if they want any of those losers watching their collective backs.

12 posted on 08/13/2008 1:19:27 PM PDT by Cheburashka (Democratic Underground: Ever wonder where all those who took the brown acid at Woodstock wound up?)
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To: Cheburashka

Most of the wars America has won were won with draftees. It was draftees who invaded Europe on D-Day. I think begining in 1944 during WWII men were no longer allowed to volunteer for the military, they were all draftees. Don’t knock draftees, they won you your freedom.


13 posted on 08/13/2008 1:42:41 PM PDT by FFranco
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To: FFranco
1) 1944 was late in the war, many were volunteers before that time, my own father volunteered in January, 1942.

2) American society is vastly different today than it was in the 1940’s. You didn't have the left-wing losers then that you have today.

3) I repeat, ask the men and women serving today if they want people watching their back who do not want to be there, and quite possibly would not have any inhibitions about getting their betters killed by their actions or inactions.

There's a reason the Democrats want a new draft, it is certainly not to improve the quality of the armed forces. If your goal is to dilute the quality of the American fighting man and to really increase the number of casualties, by all means re-institute the draft.

14 posted on 08/13/2008 2:19:52 PM PDT by Cheburashka (Democratic Underground: Ever wonder where all those who took the brown acid at Woodstock wound up?)
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To: Cheburashka

I disagree. In the world of today, where the US faces many simultaneous crises, a much larger military is needed if our actions are to be more than merely diplomatic protests without the backing of military force. If you don’t want leftists in the military, then they can be screened out as disloyal.

The draft is needed, and I hope McCain will implement it. Though I don’t expect him to include a revival of selective service as part of the Republican platform.


15 posted on 08/13/2008 2:44:03 PM PDT by FFranco
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To: FFranco
I disagree. In the world of today, where the US faces many simultaneous crises, a much larger military is needed if our actions are to be more than merely diplomatic protests without the backing of military force. If you don’t want leftists in the military, then they can be screened out as disloyal.

We had a MUCH larger military ( VOLUNTEER ) under Bush I during the first Gulf War --but Clinton with the consent of the GOP controlled congress cut it way back
16 posted on 08/13/2008 4:04:11 PM PDT by uncbob
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