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To: Norman Bates

“There are not more independents than Republicans.”

There were, slightly, in this sample. When households are called randomly and normed for census parameters, the respondents are who they are. And all pollsters are saying that they’re getting fewer repondents saying they are Republican than in previous years.

Rasmussen is one of the few pollsters who norms for party affiliation. He does so based on his own previous polling. Right now he says that 29.2% of the electorate claims to be independent, while 31.6% claims to be Republican. Not a huge difference.

As for the Catholic vote:
http://www.gallup.com/poll/108382/Obama-Holds-Slim-Advantage-Over-McCain-Among-Catholics.aspx

Obama doesn’t have to win white men. He can win by winning women, hispanics and blacks, all of which he is currently winning in greater numbers than Kerry did.

From Pew: “The presumptive Democratic nominee currently holds a double-digit advantage over John McCain among women voters (51% to 37%), a considerable improvement from May, when Obama held a much narrower 47% to 42% margin. And his lead among this group is wider than those held by John Kerry (47% to 46%) and Al Gore (50% to 41%) over George W. Bush at this stage in 2004 and 2000, respectively.”

and

“7.24.2008
2008 National Survey of Latinos: Hispanic Voter Attitudes
by Mark Hugo Lopez, Associate Director, and Susan Minushkin, Deputy Director, Pew Hispanic Center
Hispanic registered voters support Democrat Barack Obama for president over Republican John McCain by 66% to 23%, according to a nationwide survey of 2,015 Latinos conducted by the Pew Hispanic Center, a project of the Pew Research Center, from June 9 through July 13, 2008.”

John Kerry got 55% of the hispanic vote, while Pres. Bush got 44%.


18 posted on 08/13/2008 6:35:54 PM PDT by LadyNavyVet
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To: LadyNavyVet

If on November 4th Obama wins you will have been right (I suppose, if that is what you are driving at) and I will have been wrong. That has not come to pass. Less and less may be identifying as GOP and that’s too bad. But democrats are also dropping in past months. And consider the GOP has a President at roughly 30% or less approval. Besides the GOP has never held superior numbers.

This poll claims Obama is winning among men and yet by only 3 points overall. Patently absurd.

Cite whichever ancient Gallup poll you want. That one’s approaching two months age and taken right after Obama prsumptive nominee bounce. The latest poll and I cannot remember which it was had a big swing from plus 10 Obama to plus 10 or so McCain. It may well have been the Gallup follow-up.

Obama will certainly win hispanics but it will not be by 66-23 margin. Bush did not get 44% of hispanics. More like 40%. McCain will likely end up with 35+%.

McCain will win males and especially white males more decisively than Bush. He may do worse with females. But I imagine not that much worse.


19 posted on 08/13/2008 6:55:09 PM PDT by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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To: LadyNavyVet

I meant to say a big swing among Catholics. They are in our direction now. Catholics have voted for the winning candidate for many cycles now.


20 posted on 08/13/2008 6:58:03 PM PDT by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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