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To: mick

All I know is that China is looking at this situation, as well as the world’s, and our response and biding it’s time until it does the same to Taiwan.


2 posted on 08/13/2008 8:41:24 AM PDT by SengirV
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To: SengirV

We need to send in troops to Georgia. The European Union should be massing troops there already along with Poland and Ukraine and the rest of the states at risk. It’s in their best interest!

We are in the unfortunate situation that oil is under control of the most vial countries. Until the Dem’s allow us to drill in our own country we need to protect what is available.

We need to militarize that area and get into a staring game with Russia, they will blink. If they do not want to be part of the club then they must be shown who the real boss is.


3 posted on 08/13/2008 8:56:01 AM PDT by GauchoUSA
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To: SengirV

True. The Chinese are probably more interested in this than the Russians are. The only people more interested than the Chinese would be the Taiwanese, which is why I’ve said for years that Taiwan better be able to rely on itself defensively for at least a couple months in the event of a Chinese attack. This means total reliance for at least a couple of months, before they factor in any assistance from the US.

If the Taiwanese can hold out for a couple of months then things might be saved. However, if it expects instantaneous assistance from the US then they may be very mistaken (for one there will be no help from the UN, since China will veto it. And even if China is not counted, you can rest assured that Russia will support them in the same way in which China supported Russia in this Georgian thingimajig). Nations like Japan, India and Australia have a major stake when it comes to the peril of future Chinese aggression, but none of them will unilaterally (or even multilaterally, if the US is not present) move against China. A nation like Japan has a very formidable navy, but they lack the will to do anything with it. Australia and India have been building up their capabilities, but I believe neither is willing to test themselves against the Chinese without Uncle Sam holding their hands.

The only country that would stand up against China conventionally is the US (not even Russia could do so ....Russia would win, but they would win through their anti-China doctrine, which calls simply for nuking the Chinese economic and military centers the moment they start taking heavy losses). Thus Taiwan’s angel would be the US, but the question is how quickly that aid would come.

If the president is Obama that could be forever, and if it is McCain it could be sooner ....but it will still take some time.

And if you look at the Chinese, you can be certain that if they do attack that at the same time other hot-spots will flare up. Maybe Iran will act the fool then ....’conveniently’ (that is assuming that the Iran situation has not been sorted by then), as will North Korea (which is a major puppet of the Chinese). Also look for proxy assistance to the Syrians, the Taliban remnants in Afghanistan, and some of the jihadi elements that are still clinging to life in Iraq. Then consider that Pakistan, a nuclear power and the number one fount of Islamic terror in the globe, is even more a puppet of China than North Korea is (even though we consider the Pakistanis to be our ‘allies’).

A president McCain might do the same thing president Bush did in Georgia (in this case maybe deliver humanitarian aid to Taiwan using American navy ships), but if I was in charge of Taiwan I would take measures to ensure that I could hold out for at least a couple of months. That way I will make a real stand, and hopefully by that time the US will have managed to do some action.

p.s: One thing I would NOT do if I was in charge of Taiwan is attack the 3 Gorges dam (as some people on FR say Taiwan should do). The failure of the 3 Gorges would kill a couple million Chinese, and the only response Beijing would have is nuclear. Furthermore, even if Beijing doesn’t nuke Taipei, the fact that millions of Chinese have been killed via the attack on a civilian dam would immediately soak up all support for Taiwan, effectively leaving them high and dry.

Just my thoughts.


7 posted on 08/13/2008 1:08:25 PM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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