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To: shrinkermd

Most people who go to college will tell you that they go because they want to be a ___________.

Except for medicine, college has nothing to do with learning a skill. You attend college to get an EDUCATION. You are exposed to history, ideas, spin , brainwashing, indoctrination and propaganda.
If you want JOB TRAINING, you need to get a job. YOU - the guy who only has a HS diploma - will then end up TRAINING the new guy. The one who just graduated from college. The one who will be your boss and is already getting paid more than you.
Don’t get me started...


25 posted on 08/13/2008 7:06:36 AM PDT by Paisan
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To: Paisan

I agree with you 100 percent. Some where along the way, a college education got confused with vocational training. Now, a bachelor’s degree is largely worthless and a master’s is a baseline requirement for advancement. Soon, the Ph.D. will be standard issue for employment in most white collar fields.


41 posted on 08/13/2008 7:16:19 AM PDT by Oratam
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To: Paisan
If you want JOB TRAINING, you need to get a job. YOU - the guy who only has a HS diploma - will then end up TRAINING the new guy. The one who just graduated from college. The one who will be your boss and is already getting paid more than you. Don’t get me started...

I agree with the first part but not the second. I have just a HS diploma and I had plenty of college grads, even master's degrees, under me when I was in corporate. I just think that I knew how to huck and chuck better than they did. And being the boss ain't all it's cracked up to be, when you have several bosses yourself. That's why I went out for myself. Now my boss is the customer, and that's about as good as you're gonna do.

86 posted on 08/13/2008 8:06:10 AM PDT by Huck (A Teddy Roosevelt wannabe is better than a Che Guevara wannabe.)
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To: Paisan
Except for medicine, college has nothing to do with learning a skill. You attend college to get an EDUCATION. You are exposed to history, ideas, spin , brainwashing, indoctrination and propaganda. If you want JOB TRAINING, you need to get a job. YOU - the guy who only has a HS diploma - will then end up TRAINING the new guy. The one who just graduated from college. The one who will be your boss and is already getting paid more than you. Don’t get me started...

I couldn't agree more. I think there is a place for college, but it no longer is a measure of a young individual's potential in the world.

My 15 year old son has the highest IQ in the family. He's an honor roll student and an inventor. He's also dead-set against going to college. When he sees our family dr making less than my cousin who's a plumber, he thinks that college is a sucker's bet. He also believes that life behind a desk would be the worst kind of hell for him.

In our family we have successful mechanics, gun smiths, plumbers and military. We also have a dr, a nuclear physicist, and a few military men. Everyone owns their own houses, has more than one car, supported stay-at-home wives and successfully raised children.

I've told both my kids that *they* will define success for themselves. If he can support a family, save for retirement, stay off the public dole, and find contentment in his life, then he will be a successful man.

218 posted on 08/13/2008 11:34:50 AM PDT by Marie (Drill Here, Drill NOW!!!...................... and free laz!)
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To: Paisan
Except for medicine, college has nothing to do with learning a skill.

I agree, except I would add Engineering fields (mechanical, electrical, civil, etc) as areas where college teaches a skill for a job.

I'm not saying one could not learn these skills on their own, but the college setting (labs, late night study sessions with serious classmates) helps build a logical problem solving mindset.

Yes, I'm an Engineer.

254 posted on 08/13/2008 5:21:49 PM PDT by SteamShovel (Global Warming, the New Patriotism)
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