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To: kabar

“You don’t seem to comprehend the data in the links I sent to you. Did you read them?”

You don’t seem able to comprehend that I am talking about what has happened in the past 15 or 20 years, not projections into the future. My original statement involved what has happened since the Passage of NAFTA in 1993, and since implementation of Simpson-Mizzoli in 1987.

The 12 -20 million estimated illegal aliens (overwhelmingly Hispanic) make up about 1/3 of the Hispanics in the US, and they have largely entered the US in the past 15 to 20 years, and illegal aliens account for the biggest portion of the increase in Hispanics during those previous 15 to 20 years.

That’s all I’ve said, and it is correct.


52 posted on 08/13/2008 9:50:57 AM PDT by Will88 (.)
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To: Will88
You don’t seem able to comprehend that I am talking about what has happened in the past 15 or 20 years, not projections into the future. My original statement involved what has happened since the Passage of NAFTA in 1993, and since implementation of Simpson-Mizzoli in 1987.

The increase in the Hispanic population of the US started with the 1965 Immigration Act, which changed the demography of this nation with the stroke of a pen. The 1965 Immigration Act: Anatomy of a Disaster At the time, the Hispanics/Latinos comprised 1% of the population.

In 1990, immigrants from the top sending country — Mexico — accounted for 22 percent of the total foreign born. By 2000, Mexican immigrants accounted for 30 percent of the total. 1980 Mexico, already the leading sending country, accounted for 16 percent of the foreign-born population. At the state level, Mexico was the largest sending country in 18 states in 1990; by 2000 it was the top sending country in 30 states. In 1990 there were 4.2 million Mexican-born residents of this country and in 2000, 9.2 million.

NAFTA was not the primary cause of this increase in population. Legal immigration annual ceilings were raised from 270,000 to 700,000 for 1992-94 and 675,000 afterwards (including 480,000 family-sponsored, 140,000 employment-based, and 55,000 "diversity" immigrants under the 1990 immimtgration act that was signed by Bush 41. Under chain migration, i.e., family reunification, this raises the number of legal immigrants up considerably. For example, if the 2007 McCain-Kennedy bill had passed, it would have allowed another 66 million legal immigrants to enter this country on top of the 12 million already here--using Robert Rector's numbers. If there are really 20 million, which I think there are, the number could be 100 million over a 20 year period, which is why amnesty will destroy this country with the stroke of a pen.

Timeline of selected US immigration legislation

The 12 -20 million estimated illegal aliens (overwhelmingly Hispanic) make up about 1/3 of the Hispanics in the US, and they have largely entered the US in the past 15 to 20 years, and illegal aliens account for the biggest portion of the increase in Hispanics during those previous 15 to 20 years.

I don't know what you mean by largely, but there is no doubt that the vast majority of illegals entered this country during the past 20 years. The 1986 amnesty was just 22 years ago. My point on the Hispanic population of this country is that legal immigration is playing a major role--about two-thirds of the 1.2 million legal immigrants that are admitted each year are Hispanic--and the fact that the Hispanic birth rate is about double the general population, especially among immigrants, is the reason why we went from 1% Hispanic to 15% today to 29% in 2050.

Net immigration has been increasing for five decades. Immigrants account for one in eight U.S. residents, the highest level in 80 years. In 1970 it was one in 21; in 1980 it was one in 16; and in 1990 it was one in 13. Overall, nearly one in three immigrants is an illegal alien. Half of Mexican and Central American immigrants and one-third of South American immigrants are illegal. Since 2000, 10.3 million immigrants have arrived — the highest seven-year period of immigration in U.S. history. More than half of post-2000 arrivals (5.6 million) are estimated to be illegal aliens.

What you have said is not correct. It is our legal immigration policies and the high birthrate among Hispanic immigrants that have driven up the population of Hispanics in this country, not NAFTA. Since 1970 the population of this country has increased by 100 million with more than two-thirds attributed to immigration, legal and illegal. It will increase another 167 million in the next 50 years with 105 million coming from immigration.

55 posted on 08/13/2008 12:03:51 PM PDT by kabar
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