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To: Guenevere
I think Dobson is as close to a modern day hero as there is. He has done more than most to preserve values in America than anyone I know, and for that I am grateful.

I thought he was wrong when he cut out on McCain so early, simply because he was throwing away any bargaining power to press McCain to hold on judges and a few other things he has fought for so long.

I gather Dobson himself realized that not only do you give certainty for a couple of more Ginsburgs on the court with Obama, but by not supporting someone who has voted fairly close on pro life issues, you take away your strength to sway him in your direction when the time comes. To allow Obama to win would take the heart out of what Dobson has worked for all his life.

Keyes is wrong here. Listening to him will surely deposit us in the secular toilet. Obama is a certainty, at least we have a chance with McCain.

This from someone who does not particularly like McCain.

29 posted on 08/11/2008 5:32:50 AM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: Lakeshark
I don't think Keyes is wrong...and I hope/pray Dobson will not waver.

Years and years of compromise is WHY we're in such an untenable position now....

.. and it has to stop.

Ultimately GOD will judge us....and He may see fit to have an Obama rule over us for the mess we put ourselves in.

I hope not....I pray not.

I continue to ask for mercy!!!

33 posted on 08/11/2008 5:56:35 AM PDT by Guenevere
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To: Lakeshark
Obama is a certainty, at least we have a chance with McCain.

This really brings out and shows those who have severe dysfunctional mental thinking. "I'll blow my brains out now (Obama) because the operation could fail (McCain) and I might die."

34 posted on 08/11/2008 5:58:17 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: Lakeshark
The thing is, John McCain has shown time and time again an utter contempt for Christian conservatives, that I have zero confidence in McCain bothering to listen to a James Dobson or any other advocate for traditional Christian conservative values. McCain has a "maverick" image to uphold, ya know.
217 posted on 08/11/2008 9:45:37 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture (Compromising can lead to compromising positions)
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To: Lakeshark
I think Dobson is as close to a modern day hero as there is. He has done more than most to preserve values in America than anyone I know, and for that I am grateful.

Bzzzt. Wrong answer.

Dobson is largely to blame for giving us McCain as the GOP nominee. Fred Thompson didn't return Dobson's calls and was slow to make a pilgrimage to kiss his ring, so Dobson signle-handedly removed the only viable conservative in the race by leaking an email that falsely said Fred Thompson wasn't a Christian.

Dobson tried to play kingmaker and lost. He killed Thompson's campaign and steered alot of evangelicals with limited politcal acumen to Huckaphony (not a conservative, but probably a devout Christian). Without a good chunk of those polital-novice evangelicals, a conservative cannot beat a well-financed moderate for the GOP nomination.

It was a vain and stupid move by Dobson. In addition to taking out Thompson, Dobson also marginalized every evangelical who is also practicing Republican. Country clubbers and moderates within every state and local Republican party have become emboldened by what they see as the dumb and weak evangelical faction and are challenging conservatives on every platform position, down ticket election and party leadership post.

Meanwhile, at the top of the ticket, McCain didn't need evangelicals to win the nomination. And he won't consult them when picking his VP. And if McCain should get lucky and win the election in November, you can bet your life savings that McCain will not be employing conservatives in his Administration or consulting them on policy matters.

Yep, you're my hero, Dr. Dobson. You have selfishly set the conservative movement back at least 10 years.

283 posted on 08/12/2008 11:29:59 PM PDT by Sideshow Bob
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