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Why isn't Obama crushing McCain?
Salon ^ | August 11, 2008 | Thomas Schaller

Posted on 08/10/2008 9:45:21 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

The public is unhappy with the Iraq war. The economy is in dire straits. The president, a_two-term_Republican, is setting records for unpopularity. It's very difficult for one party to win three presidential elections in a row. Circumstances seem to be conspiring to make 2008 a Democratic year. So why is Barack Obama running neck and neck with John McCain two weeks before the Democratic Convention?

Salon asked two respected journalists and a veteran Republican operative to give us their best guesses. Tom Edsall, a former Washington Post reporter, is political editor of the Huffington Post. He was also a professor of journalism at Columbia University for 25 years. Mark Murray is the deputy political director for NBC News and was previously a reporter for the National Journal. He co-writes MSNBC's First Read, a roundup of national political news. Ben Ginsberg, a lawyer in the Washington firm Patton Boggs, served as counsel to the Bush-Cheney presidential campaign in both 2000 and 2004 and played a central role in the 2000 Florida recount.

Tom Schaller: The conventional wisdom from left and right, Republicans and Democrats, is that this is going to be, or should be, a Democratic year. The president is unpopular. People are unhappy about the war. They're nervous about the economy. And yet, at least here in the pre-convention period, we find ourselves with a relatively tight race. Some polls show Obama with a slight, usually single-digit, lead; other polls show him leading within the margin of error or even tied with John McCain. To start the conversation today, do you all agree that in fact, Obama is running behind national party expectations and/or that McCain is running ahead of them?

Tom Edsall: I do agree, and he does have some problems he's going to have to deal with.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: democrats; election; electionpresident; elections; gop; hillary; mccain; obama; riellehunter
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I think it's more like 1972 than 1980.
1 posted on 08/10/2008 9:45:21 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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The public is unhappy with the Iraq war. The economy is in dire straits.

That should answer their question -neither are true.

we are winning the war in Iraq and The Eonomy still shows growth, albeit small.

They believe their own propaganda and then are confused by reality.

2 posted on 08/10/2008 9:49:57 PM PDT by Wil H
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“Tom Edsall, a former Washington Post reporter, is political editor of the Huffington Post. He was also a professor of journalism at Columbia University for 25 years. Mark Murray is the deputy political director for NBC News and was previously a reporter for the National Journal. He co-writes MSNBC’s First Read, a roundup of national political news. Ben Ginsberg, a lawyer in the Washington firm Patton Boggs,”

The only one of the three men mentioned who are qualified to talk about campaign strategy is Ginsburg.

The other two posers have never actually fought and bled in a real political campaign, especially the most intense form of political combat of them all, presidential campaigns.

So of course, Salon gets info from the two Dinosaur newspaper hacks instead of going out and looking for experienced campaign operatives.


3 posted on 08/10/2008 9:50:36 PM PDT by GOPGuide
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Why isn't Obama crushing McCain?

Because people with at least average intelligence have figured out that he's a fraud?

4 posted on 08/10/2008 9:51:49 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer ("I'm trying to save the planet!" - Nancy Pelosi ..........ROTFLMAO! What a dumbass!)
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To: GOPGuide

I noticed that, too. They always have 2-4 lefties and a token conservative (half the time it’s really a RINO) and ask the liberals far more questions than the republican. BTW: The HUFFINGTON POST?! Since when is that a MEDIA outlet?! LOL


5 posted on 08/10/2008 9:54:43 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Barack Obama: In Error and arrogant -- he's errogant!)
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“The president, a_two-term_Republican, is setting records for unpopularity.”

Says who? The MSM maybe?


6 posted on 08/10/2008 9:54:43 PM PDT by Ben Reyes
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To: Wil H

Correct. The MSM looks for issues and believes Iraq should be one. The US public wants to WIN. If we are doing well, Iraq is not an issue.


7 posted on 08/10/2008 9:55:36 PM PDT by PGR88
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Why isn't Obama crushing McCain?

Why do lefty rags ask dumb questions?

8 posted on 08/10/2008 10:02:25 PM PDT by freespirited (Honk if you miss Licorice.)
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“They always have 2-4 lefties and a token conservative (half the time it’s really a RINO) and ask the liberals far more questions than the republican.”

Look, they produce a crap product produced by reporters who don’t understand the subject in depth and bend the facts to fit their own biases instead of really looking closely at the issues in detail from different perspectives.

In other words, they produce a garbage product that does not inform the reader and then they are shocked when their customers abandon them to look to competing forms of news media to get information like the internet or even the God damned National Enquirer.

I hope they stay this arrogant and aloof because it will just drive more people away to blogs and tabloids for in depth information.

The newspapers’ and network news’ business models are dead ducks long term and the ONLY reason cable news will survive is because they provide breaking news coverage.


9 posted on 08/10/2008 10:02:59 PM PDT by GOPGuide
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Photobucket The Iraq War has already been won...we are merely peacekeepers. The economy is a product of the market...horrible decisions in the banking/mortgage sector, coupled with with high gas prices and foreign collusion against the dollar. Of course, let us not forget, the wonders of the Democratic led congress. As for Obama...he's a glass candidate. He has to hope people don't look too deep.
10 posted on 08/10/2008 10:08:29 PM PDT by xuberalles (The Best Anti-Liberal Novelties On The Net! http://www.cafepress.com/titillatingtees)
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The MSM is in such denial...Obama will lose in a landslide because he is an inexperienced poser and the public KNOWS it, even if the MSM will not face it.


11 posted on 08/10/2008 10:09:21 PM PDT by Hildy (You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.)
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Because people with at least average intelligence have figured out that he's a fraud?

There's also the issues of not enough governmental experience, his known radical Left views, and the constant threat of Senator Hillary Clinton doing something nasty at the Convention....

12 posted on 08/10/2008 10:11:28 PM PDT by RayChuang88
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He's not crushing McCain because he's been on TV for so long that people have no choice now but to start to wonder what's behind the celebrity, and when they do look they find the answer: Not much.

If he loses, it will come down to something very, very simple--he doesn't have any qualifications for becoming president.

13 posted on 08/10/2008 10:12:14 PM PDT by Darkwolf377
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To: FlingWingFlyer
Because it's hard for such an effete light weight to crush *anything*?
14 posted on 08/10/2008 10:12:39 PM PDT by Salamander (And don't forget my Dog; fixed and consequent......)
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To: Ben Reyes

Only surpassed by a Democratic congress on records of unpopularity... Something they don’t mention...


15 posted on 08/10/2008 10:25:07 PM PDT by DB
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The Russian attack on Georgia must have a few supporters of his nervous. I know it does me and I would never think of voting for him...
16 posted on 08/10/2008 10:25:08 PM PDT by tubebender (Why does a round pizza come in a square box?)
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As usual, most American’s aren’t paying attention this far out. The last 30-45 days before the general election is usually when most voters begin to seriously make up their minds.


17 posted on 08/10/2008 10:32:59 PM PDT by Reagan Man ( McCain Wants My Vote --- this conservative is ambivalent to the odious Johnny Mac)
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Because it's hard for such an effete light weight to crush *anything*?

Effete is the perfect word. I get a kick out of this creep when he tries to act tough.

18 posted on 08/10/2008 10:33:54 PM PDT by Stentor
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The MSM keeps asking this question because they all believe that deep down inside we, the American people, are all racists, and thus will not vote for Obama. They will continue to push this question and its implications all the way up to the election, and if Obama loses, which I believe he will, it will be because we are all racists, don’t ya know. That is what is going on here. The fact that Obama is a total Marxist leftist is immaterial. We are all racists. The MSM knows this for sure.


19 posted on 08/10/2008 10:43:23 PM PDT by flaglady47
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...and if Obama loses, which I believe he will, it will be because we are all racists, don’t ya know.

I agree. Funny that they didn't think that way about people of Pennsylvania, Ohio, and Maryland in 2006.

20 posted on 08/10/2008 10:54:33 PM PDT by paudio (Kerry had Global Test, Obama has Global Tax.)
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