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To: neverdem

I’m having a running discussion w/ fellow alumni of my college. Some questions I raised w/ the Obamaites:

1. Can you show me one occasion where Obama went against the leadership of his party?

2. Can you show me one time when he was elected the leader of an elected body — ie, Speaker of the House, etc?

3. Can you show me where his old ward / district in Chicago is better off from his leadership?

4. Of all of the bills he’s “sponsored” or “fought for”, how many were passed and signed into law?

I’m just asking so we all know what we’re debating here.

Of course, I’m immediately told to keep quiet until I have some argument of substance, and I think that’s the point... there’s little in Obama’s record to argue about.


6 posted on 08/10/2008 9:07:45 PM PDT by TWohlford
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To: TWohlford
I’m having a running discussion w/ fellow alumni of my college. Some questions I raised w/ the Obamaites:

In many races has he defeated real competition? His apparent defeat of Hillary is impressive, but are there any others?

14 posted on 08/10/2008 11:59:19 PM PDT by supercat
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To: TWohlford

I’m a Illinois resident.
Obama did little for his district.

When major votes came into the State Senate Obama could not commit himself to a vote and used an excuse that he hit the wrong button!

“Obama said oops on 6 state Senate votes”
http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-obamavotes24jan24,0,713086.story

Obama was our State Senator for eight years and his district is still poverty-ridden. No Change Here!
Makes you a little angry.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hP-YoB5mnZs&NR=1


16 posted on 08/11/2008 7:14:31 AM PDT by Milligan
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