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Georgian breakaway city in ruins (Russians kills Russian citizens)
cnn ^ | 8/10/2008 | cnn

Posted on 08/10/2008 9:16:06 AM PDT by tobyhill

Tskhinvali, the capital of the separatist Georgian province South Ossetia, lay in smoldering ruins Sunday after three days of fighting between Georgian troops and Russian forces.

Russia's deputy foreign minister said at least 2,000 people, mostly South Ossetians who claim Russian citizenship, have been killed in Tskhinvali.

The fighting had spread well beyond South Ossetia, with Russian airstrikes on Georgian cities and with thousands of Russian troops in the breakaway province of Abkhazia.

The United States warned Sunday that "disproportionate" actions against Georgia could have a "significant long term impact on U.S.-Russian relations."

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TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: abkhazia; georgia; ossetia; russianmilitary; southossetia; tskhinvali
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1 posted on 08/10/2008 9:16:07 AM PDT by tobyhill
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If true, than the Russians have learned nothing from history. Well, we all know that the Russians were NOT interested in the Russians in Georgia. They are interested in the pipeline, the infrastructure and the port. Georgia and the “Georgian Russians” just happened to be in the way.


2 posted on 08/10/2008 9:20:18 AM PDT by Chgogal (Voting "Present" 130 times might be a sign of a smart politician. It is not a sign of a good leader.)
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To: tobyhill

Wonder where the world outcry of Russians killing civilians is. Israel kills terrorists and they are labeled Barbarians. Russia kills civilians and it is business as usual.


3 posted on 08/10/2008 9:20:30 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (McCain/Palin 2008)
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To: tobyhill
Russians killing Russians is no big deal.. Stalin murdered almost 100,000,000 of them in the last century.. that is murdered or made them wish for death.. in his Gulags.. Russian citys were barely little better than Gulags.. for a almost hundred years..

"The death one is a tragedy, the death of 1,000 is merely a statistic.."- Stalin..

4 posted on 08/10/2008 9:22:00 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

My comments exactly from an earlier post.

Guess the world has a double standard.....


5 posted on 08/10/2008 9:22:31 AM PDT by illiac (If we don't change directions soon, we'll get where we're going)
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6 posted on 08/10/2008 9:23:06 AM PDT by McCloud-Strife (McCain-Obama, No matter who wins, we lose)
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The United States warned Sunday that “disproportionate” actions against Georgia could have a “significant long term impact on U.S.-Russian relations.” ........................How much is talk selling for these days? Still cheap?


7 posted on 08/10/2008 9:25:03 AM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (If everyone stays home and no one votes will Congress disappear?)
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To: Chgogal
Oil is everything to Russia at this time but the problem for Russia is that to take over the pipelines would require 10 times more resources in security than ever was in Afghanistan.
8 posted on 08/10/2008 9:28:13 AM PDT by tobyhill (fraud -noun;(1)deceit, trickery, sharp practice, or breach of confidence, (2) Obama)
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Urkaine, a former Soviet republic like Georgia, said it might prevent Russian navy ships involved in the blockade from returning to their bases in the Crimea, an spokeswoman with Urkaine's foreign ministry said.

Good for the Urkaine!

(should I be surprised CNN misspelled this twice?)

9 posted on 08/10/2008 9:28:17 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (A kid at McDonalds has more real-world work experience than Barack Hussein.)
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To: Chgogal
More likely the Russians are using this situation to send a message to the Khazakhs, Uzbeks and Chinesed regarding Russian settlements in Central and East Asia.

Good opportunity for Putin to show the Mongols and their successors that the Russians are just as tough as they were in the days of Ivan, or Boris, or Peter.

10 posted on 08/10/2008 9:29:56 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Bringbackthedraft
...How much is talk selling for these days? Still cheap?

so you are anxious to send Americans to do the defending that Europeans won't do? Whose Kids yours or others.

11 posted on 08/10/2008 9:30:52 AM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts
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To: tobyhill

With infinite amount of return on investment, so to speak. Europe has no strategic reserve and no natural resources to speak of. Europe is becoming Russia’s puppet because of Europe’s lack of vision and inability to recognize reality.


12 posted on 08/10/2008 9:32:36 AM PDT by Chgogal (Voting "Present" 130 times might be a sign of a smart politician. It is not a sign of a good leader.)
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To: hosepipe
Russia can't afford to be drawn into a long drawn out conflict like they were in Afghanistan. I don't think there was any doubt that Russia could beat Georgia but for how long can they beat Georgia is the question?
13 posted on 08/10/2008 9:32:54 AM PDT by tobyhill (fraud -noun;(1)deceit, trickery, sharp practice, or breach of confidence, (2) Obama)
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To: VeniVidiVici
The Georgians should pursue a hit-n-run policy against the Soviet - oh, I mean Russian - invaders. They should use IEDs and other asymmetrical tactics to force the Putin Empire to pay a heavy cost for its neo-imperial adventure.
14 posted on 08/10/2008 9:33:04 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Obama: vain, mercurial, inexperienced, aloof, condescending, doctrinaire, and Reverend Wright's son.)
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To: muawiyah

I am sure that is part of it. But I am convinced this is an oil play to keep Europe in line.


15 posted on 08/10/2008 9:35:49 AM PDT by Chgogal (Voting "Present" 130 times might be a sign of a smart politician. It is not a sign of a good leader.)
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To: tobyhill
Russia, under Putin, has become the aider and abettor of the terrorist states of Iran, Syria, and Venezuela. As such, and with this disproportionate response in Georgia, we should do what we can to see them pay a very high price for their renewed militarism.
16 posted on 08/10/2008 9:36:15 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Obama: vain, mercurial, inexperienced, aloof, condescending, doctrinaire, and Reverend Wright's son.)
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To: elhombrelibre

UN Security Council live right now on CNN.com.


17 posted on 08/10/2008 9:37:35 AM PDT by chpmass
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To: tobyhill

Russia’s victims are white Christians (in other words, not politically correct), so Libs won’t care.


18 posted on 08/10/2008 9:37:59 AM PDT by Tzimisce (How Would Mohammed Vote? Obama for President!)
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To: tobyhill

Russians killing Russians? That’s just another Olympic sport to Putin.


19 posted on 08/10/2008 9:40:16 AM PDT by Melinda
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To: elhombrelibre
I bet there's covert ops going on to do just that. Russia should be very careful about how much they would like to invest in vulnerable areas.
20 posted on 08/10/2008 9:40:32 AM PDT by tobyhill (fraud -noun;(1)deceit, trickery, sharp practice, or breach of confidence, (2) Obama)
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