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Algae May Be an Energy Answer
The New American ^ | August 18, 2008 | Ed Hiserodt

Posted on 08/09/2008 6:52:41 AM PDT by LomanBill

A modern society such as that in the United States requires personal transportation — cargo trucks, planes, and cars — to make a market economy work. Any serious effort to move our country to mass transportation, such as trains and buses, for everyone and everything all the time — or even most of the time — would destroy not only our economy, but the American way of life. To provide our personal transportation for the foreseeable future, the United States needs oil or an oil substitute.

Electric vehicles, the proposed solution by many for America’s transportation problems, have serious drawbacks generally ignored by a pliant news media. Besides being automotive weenies, their batteries don’t hold a sufficient charge for many everyday trips, and require hours to recharge — unless you want to charge them quickly (thus shortening their life span) and pay the $3,000-5,000 price for replacement batteries. One might also ask: “Where is the electricity to come from if electric cars become ubiquitous?” It is estimated that it would require a dozen 1,000-megawatt power plants to replace the petroleum fuels in Los Angeles alone.

The “hydrogen economy” is a total farce. Hydrogen-powered cars are about as practical as licorice submarines.* Their only reason for being is to prove to a naïve public that the manufacturer is in on being “Green.” No, we need oil or something like it for the foreseeable future.

President Bush, with the backing of many Republicans and most Democrats, claimed to answer this need by requiring the use of billions of gallons of ethanol and biodiesel. Made by a laborious distillation process from corn and soybeans, they are on the market solely owing to mandates and subsidies. In fact, because making ethanol is so energy intensive, debates are still ongoing over whether ethanol creates more energy when it is burned than is used in its creation. Of course, burning our food supply is proving (as we, and most everyone who knew anything about the topic, predicted)† not to be a solution either. While any positive energy output from ethanol production is still hotly debated, the resultant higher prices and food shortages are not in question, as evidenced by the “tortilla riots” in Mexico over the past year.

Another Ethanol?

Having been burnt by the ethanol fiasco, which has caused great misallocations of resources that will come to haunt farmers and entrepreneurs who have invested in ethanol plants, one tends to be cautious when another bioscheme becomes the rage. And algae production is fast becoming just such a rage. There are, however, major differences.

• Algae can thrive in fresh, brackish, or seawater — and very little of that is required.

• There is no need for any soil, much less good soil, as algae grow hydroponically.

• With more than 20,000 known varieties of algae, species can be chosen for high lipid content (e.g., for diesel fuel) or high sugar content for distillation purposes.

• In desert climes it can be harvested on a day-by-day basis because it grows so quickly.

All it takes is sunlight, water, and carbon dioxide to provide the energy for arguably the most complex process we see in nature: photosynthesis.

Here Comes Da Sun

In its most elementary depiction, photosynthesis is a process where light energy converts carbon dioxide and water into oxygen and carbohydrates such as sugars, starches, and cellulose. It, in effect, converts the electromagnetic energy of sunlight into chemical energy that can be used as food to sustain the animal world, or as a fuel such as wood to provide warmth or for other energy requirements.

Nature isn’t in a big hurry to carry out this process, nor is she particularly worried about efficiency. As Howard Hayden points out in his very readable and informative book The Solar Fraud, New England forests convert only about 0.06 percent of the incident solar energy into chemical energy. Corn fares a bit better. Iowa, with an average insolation (the rate at which the sun’s radiation strikes a surface) of 170 watts per square meter, produces about 150 bushels of corn per acre per year, with an energy content of 404 megajoules (MJ) per bushel if you burn the corn directly as fuel. (Gasoline, by comparison, has approximately 121 MJ per gallon.) This works out to a sun-to-corn efficiency of 0.28 percent — unless you make ethanol out of it. Then you only convert 0.14 percent of the incoming solar energy to usable chemical energy.

Fortunately, the soft-energy folks are right in thinking that there is a lot of solar energy beating down on planet Earth, else there would be precious little plant or animal life. In Albuquerque where the average insolation is 240 watts per square meter, the equivalent of the energy in 254,000 gallons of gasoline falls on each acre over a year’s time. Yes, there’s plenty of sunlight; utilizing it economically is the problem.

It seems obvious that a major problem in obtaining chemical energy from plants is raising the percentage of solar energy that is converted to a form we can use for something other than working on our tans. Indeed, this is what the proponents of growing algae as a feedstock for biofuels have in mind. The first to develop an efficient and reliable process to grow algae at super-fast rates is likely to win a multi-billion-dollar prize, along with the gratitude of millions of Americans. Let us take a look at the present state of affairs as pertains to the conversion of algae into products that can be used for transportation fuels.

How It Would Work

To create diesel fuel or gasoline from algae, the oils must be extracted from the algae — it is one of the major cost factors in the production of algae-based fuels. Three processes are under consideration:

• Pressing with an “expeller,” a process that can extract 70-75 percent of the oil.

• Use of hexane as a solvent to leach out the oil, which, along with pressing can extract more than 95 percent of the oil; however, there are inherent dangers here due to the volatility of hexane solvent.

• Supercritical fluid extraction — the use of liquefied CO2 under pressure to act as a solvent to extract the oil. Almost all of the oil can be extracted using this process alone, but special equipment is necessary to maintain pressures and temperatures.

Oils from the algae are then “cracked” in a manner similar to petroleum whereby hydrogen is used to break the long hydrocarbon chains, creating what is called “green crude.” The end product is crude oil that is almost chemically indistinguishable from light, sweet crude oil, except that it is green in color.

This green crude does not have the drawbacks of biodiesel, which needs special care in its storage, transport, and use (being no more than high-grade plant or vegetable oil, it solidifies when it gets cold), and ethanol, which, too, cannot be transported using traditional pipelines, along with its numerous other problems.

The production of this product is also carbon neutral — the outcome that is sought for by worried environmentalists in biodiesel and ethanol production. Except for possible carbon dioxide created by the production of hydrogen for the cracking process (depending on what energy source is used in the hydrogen’s production), the carbon dioxide created by burning the products formed from the green crude — gasoline, diesel fuel, jet fuel, methane gas, etc. — cannot be greater than the carbon dioxide yanked by the algae from the atmosphere during photosynthesis.

The main sticking point in creating green crude from algae lies in producing enough high-energy-content algae to feed our country’s energy appetite. Can companies overcome the obstacles? You be the judge.

What Stands in the Way

Growing algae in and of itself is no trick; varieties of it will literally grow in almost any type of brine or even wastewater. However, growing, or culturing, a single, desired alga variety is more difficult. If algae are grown in open ponds, they are susceptible to being killed off by invasive algae and bacteria. In open ponds, fluctuating temperatures and pH levels also can kill off algae. Strains of algae that can fend for themselves in an open pond may not be strains that have optimal energy-producing qualities. Closed growing systems also have their problems: electing and “domesticating” superior species is proving to be difficult, as is introducing enough carbon dioxide (plant food) into the enclosed systems.

Even once the algae are grown, commercially viable amounts of available green crude are not a done deal. None of the proposed processes has undergone the rigors of commercial/industrial production. Economical methods to harvest the algae and extract the lipids or other carbohydrates have not been developed, and factors influencing any resultant fuel quality and properties are not yet well understood.

The obstacles notwithstanding, a survey of the literature indicates that there is a great deal of activity among those who believe the pros outweigh the cons in the development equation. Indeed, one commentator observed that companies are springing up on a near-daily basis, driven by both the ultimate prize and the fact that the capital investment for a start-up company is low as compared to wresting oil from shale formations or converting coal to liquid fuel. Examples of companies active in developing algae-to-fuel technology are noted below.

Solix Biofuels

Using triangular containers termed “photobioreactors” (PBRs), inventor Jim Sears brings together algae, water, carbon dioxide, and sunlight in order to “farm” his crop of biofuel feedstocks. Sears, of Ft. Collins, Colorado, has already learned that this simple formula isn’t quite as simple as it may initially appear. The high-oil-content algae species his company has selected is finicky about water temperature, and the normal amount of CO2 in the atmosphere isn’t sufficient to achieve maximum growth. He thinks algae farms will have to be located near power plants — although the problem of separating CO2 from other stack gases has proven to be a sticky one. At least there shouldn’t be any shortage of CO2, as a 1,000-megawatt coal-fired plant produces 360 pounds of the gas every second.

Solix CEO Doug Henston predicts algae would produce 10,000 gallons of oil per acre, per year. Currently soy produces some 50 gallons of oil per acre; canola, 150 gallons; and palm, 650 gallons. As vegetable oil typically has 94-95 percent the heat content of diesel fuel, 10,000 gallons would produce some 1.4 million MJ of energy per year — a whopping 4.5 percent of the incident solar energy and some 75 times the conversion rate of an oak tree.

Henston reports that his company is still in the development mode and plans a larger research project to be completed late summer 2008, which will tap into the New Belgium Brewing Company as a source of growth-enhancing CO2. Solix is financed by private equity, with $5 million having been raised and plans to raise another $10 million during 2008.

Valcent Products

In his “vertical greenhouse” near El Paso, Texas, plant physiologist and Valcent Products CEO Glen Kertz has developed a unique method of exposing algae to sunlight in order to produce the greatest amount of biomass in the shortest period of time. The device, known as a High Density Vertical Bioreactor (HDVB), or “VertiGro” system, uses a series of transparent horizontal chambers (reactors) connected in series so the algae solution is exposed to sunlight while flowing down after having been pumped up from a reservoir. The process is then repeated. Being a closed-loop system, almost no water is used except that required to feed the algae. Kertz maintains that algae is the fastest-growing plant on Earth, and in some species as much as 50 percent of the “body weight” is vegetable oil (lipids). Moreover, he claims that by selecting the right species of algae, Valcent will be able to tailor the carbon chains for those most effective in producing a menu of transportation products such as diesel or jet fuel.

Kertz is even more enthusiastic than Henston in his estimation of yields: 20,000 gallons of oil from an acre of pond, ostensibly much more from the VertiGro system. He calculates that an area one-tenth the size of New Mexico in algae production would meet the fuel demands for the entire United States.

PetroSun

Scottsdale-based PetroSun, already a player in the oil and natural-gas industries, plans to open a 1,100-acre saltwater open-pond system with 94 five-acre and 63 10-acre ponds. Located on the Texas Gulf coast, it plans to extract oil on-site and then barge or truck the raw oil to a biodiesel refinery.

The company plans additional algae sites and extraction plants in Alabama, Arizona, and Louisiana.

The interest in algae-to-oil is certainly not limited to the United States. Prototype production is underway in Israel and New Zealand, with the aforementioned PetroSun planning facilities in Mexico, Brazil, and Australia. At this point in time all of these plants have one thing in common: they are not yet producing any fuel. It may well come to pass — and there is certainly “a lot of attempting going on out there” — but the process may well prove to be more difficult than it seems to be at first glance.

One very encouraging sign, however, is the lack of interest the federal government is showing in algae-to-oil production. The energy legislation of the federal government — particularly with Democrats in control of the House and Senate — is focused on those technologies that don’t have a chance of producing significant energy. The politicians are buying off special-interest groups that can’t legitimately compete in the energy market. In light of this, it may well be that algae could play a key role in our energy future.



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To: Jim Noble
You are correct about what will give us energy dependence, but this is only correct when you live in the world of reality. You see, reality is no longer important in America. You see, in America government is God, so whatever the pinhead progressive elitists call reality that is what Americans accept. If Paris Hilton thinks we should all drive paperweights on wheels that run on human farts then that is what the Reality For America is today. Good luck with that truth and sanity thing you seem to be into, Jim.
41 posted on 08/09/2008 9:13:45 AM PDT by Force of Truth (Legalize the Constitution::::The power to tax is the power to kill.)
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To: Wonder Warthog

And at $10-$20 per gallon of algae oil I can see that petroleum is doomed. But with volume the price might drop to......? Only three times the cost of petroleum? Twice petroleum? Wonderful hype, terrible economics.


42 posted on 08/09/2008 9:21:21 AM PDT by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Force of Truth
[No, my great hope is that we Americans will be allowed to use our own natural resources(drill for oil).]
 
I'm all for Americans utilizing their own Natural Resources - BUT...
 
 
 
 
Who is the #1 Producer of American Oil?  BP PLC, aka British Petroleum.  
 
Somehow, I suspect the writers of the American Declaration of Independence would not be happy that the British are now the #1 producer of American Oil. 
 
Tyranny of the Appetite.
 
 
 

43 posted on 08/09/2008 9:22:12 AM PDT by LomanBill (A bird flies because the right wing opposes the left.)
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To: sionnsar; Carry_Okie

>>The enviro-whacko libs would go ballistic.

BTW, Carry_Okie has some very interesting, and surprising, insights regarding who funds the environmentalists.

Check out his post here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/999451/posts?page=67#67


44 posted on 08/09/2008 9:30:10 AM PDT by LomanBill (A bird flies because the right wing opposes the left.)
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To: count-your-change
unless one thinks that a thousand square miles of land will be devoted to algae growing in the near future.

I've been in the oil & gas industry my entire career, and specialized in drilling / exploration / technology.

While the amount of recoverable oil at various economic levels is still huge - at least a centuries worth even now - I still believe that the long term solution is genetic / molecular engineering and growing oil in modified plants.

THIS technology is like where computers were in the 60's - we are JUST getting started in undertanding this - let alone use it to engineer things like bio-oil... for example...

Similar to algae, some seaweeds grow 3' a day. And algae itself, of high lipid content is indeed a viable solution, especially with engineering.

Creating an algae with grape-like sacs that are full of vegetable oil, with a 2-4 week maturity cycle, will do the deal.

And as far as land is concerned? NO big deal at all. Why would one think a thousand square miles - 640,000 acres - is a big issue?

10,000 gallons / acre / (42 gallons/bbl oil) = 238 bbls oil per year PER ACRE - at $60/bbl = $14.3K per acre. Not many "legal" drops make this kind of money. For example, an acre of tobacco makes about $4K per acre to the farmer. Opium poppies pay about $4K to $8K per acre at the farm.

In a specialized niche, small pick-ur-own fruit operations on the US east coast can net $20K/acre...

www.fruitgrowersnews.com/pages/arts.php?ns=270

In the US, 60+M acres are used to grow hay, with 20+M to grow alfalfa. They don't make much money doing this.

If we take this alfalfa acreage = 20M acres... AND lets say we only get 10K gallons per acre per year and not the 20K some people claim... This equals 238 bbls per acre per year... which equals on 20M acres, 4.76B bbls/year... Which equals 13M bbls per day.

Which is ALL the oil we import per day...

FROM CIA WORLD FACTBOOK US OIL CONSUMPTION 2004 - 20.8M BBL/DAY US OIL IMPORTS 2004 - 13.15M BBL/DAY

Converting alfalfa to algae, and the US becomes 100% energy independent.

Even if this is only 20% or 30% "true/achievable" it is worth doing.

20M acres = a square 560 miles on each side.

We can do this in Texas all by ourselves, without even needing the rest of the country.

BUT lets say we break this into 20 regions scattered across the country to disperse production and infrastructure risk. You have 20 areas that are 125 miles on a side.

This is simply NOT an impossible task, given the free enterprise reward of getting 238 bbls / acre of oil at "market price".

If the world price fell ALL THE WAY to $35 a bbl with this "algae-oil" economy, that is still $8300 an acre per year income.

On a square mile section, with 10% held out for roads, gathering equipment, etc. - the is STILL $4.75M per year per square mile growing algae.

I will take THAT deal any day!!!

Now all I need to do is invent and patent an algae-grape-rapeseedoil hybrid...

45 posted on 08/09/2008 9:36:32 AM PDT by muffaletaman
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To: LomanBill
We have a source of radiation, the sun, to grow plants and one doesn't need radiation proof skivvies to harvest the crop.
“The Fuel That Glows For The Car That Goes” is catchy though.
46 posted on 08/09/2008 9:39:00 AM PDT by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: LomanBill

This is a good summary of the algae oil technology


47 posted on 08/09/2008 9:47:58 AM PDT by jonrick46
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To: LomanBill

I too have been reading all the research articles I can find on Green Algae. It is for real. This article is a bit behind on the technology; for instance PetroSun is not just planning a 1,100 acre growing system, they are in production.

Many of the probems this author mentions have now been solved.

They are now putting green algae to fuel processing systems on board large ships, to reduce fueling costs and to extend cruising range. They are or soon wil be straining wild algae from the water as they cruise.

It is no longer a secret that the Department of Defense is very heavily invested in green algae, tho many of the details are top secret. The DOD is the largest US consumer of transportation fuel.

Gasoline and diesel fuels, delivered to hot battle fields, is known to cost the DOD around 100 dollars a gallon. They will be, and probably already are, making bio-fuels from green algae on board ships near those war zones for much less than that. As oil shipping winds down, those huge tankers will be converted to green algae to fuel factories.

Several companies are now using green algae to make bio ethanol, methane, bio butanol, bio crude oil, bio gasolne, bio diesel, home heating bio gas and bio fuel oil, ship bunker fuel and bio aviation fuel, propeller and jet.

Many of these companies are now producing various bio fuels from green algae for under a dollar a gallon, some for less than 50 cents a gallon, and new breakthrus in technology are a daily event.

There are hundreds of new green algae production plants now under construction and on the drawing boards world wide.

I dont believe in man made global warming, but I am for cleaning up coal plant emissions, and running the stack smoke thru green algae growing ponds or production tubes do that. Algae is a natural to mate up with Ethanol distillaries to clean up the waste water and eat up the CO2 they produce.

They are using green algae to clean up the emissions from all kinds of industrial and sewage pollution and to make any kind of fuel they want while doing it. The massive tar sands project in Canada uses green algae ponds to clean up the spilled oil and runoff. Green algae also works great in petroleum refineries and sewage treatment plants.

It takes a lot of water to refine petroleum and they have to clean it up before dumping it. Green algae does that.

Green algae fuel production is here to stay.

larry hagedon
AmericanFlexFuelExperience@yahoogroups.com


48 posted on 08/09/2008 9:48:14 AM PDT by larry hagedon (born and raised and retired in Iowa.)
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To: Free Vulcan

I would be interested in your insight as to what problems in information you found in the article.


49 posted on 08/09/2008 9:51:51 AM PDT by jonrick46
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To: larry hagedon; Neoliberalnot
[Algae is a natural to mate up with Ethanol distillaries to clean up the waste water and eat up the CO2 they produce.]
 
Excellent.  That should make some nervous SD pick-and-shovel (ethanol infrastructure) owning farmers happy ;-)
 
Thanks for the post Larry.
 
=Bill

50 posted on 08/09/2008 10:05:55 AM PDT by LomanBill (A bird flies because the right wing opposes the left.)
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To: Jim Noble
3) Seize overseas oil fields and incorporate them as US territories (Mexico and Venezuela would be easiest, SA, not so much).

If we can accomplish your points (1) and (2), then 3 would be counterproductive. Why take the political hit for seizing something that (1) and (2) makes worthless?

51 posted on 08/09/2008 10:06:29 AM PDT by BlazingArizona
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To: muffaletaman

[I've been in the oil & gas industry my entire career, and specialized in drilling / exploration / technology.

While the amount of recoverable oil at various economic levels is still huge - at least a centuries worth even now - I still believe that the long term solution is genetic / molecular engineering and growing oil in modified plants.

{snip}

If the world price fell ALL THE WAY to $35 a bbl with this "algae-oil" economy, that is still $8300 an acre per year income.

On a square mile section, with 10% held out for roads, gathering equipment, etc. - the is STILL $4.75M per year per square mile growing algae.

I will take THAT deal any day!!!  ]

Outstanding post from an Oil industry insider.

Always amazed at the diversity and dept of the expertise here on FR.

Thanks for the Post!

[ Now all I need to do is invent and patent an algae-grape-rapeseedoil hybrid...]

Can we grow it in our gardens? ;-)

=Bill

 

 


52 posted on 08/09/2008 10:21:36 AM PDT by LomanBill (A bird flies because the right wing opposes the left.)
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To: muffaletaman
Having been in any industry, and the oil and gas industry in particular, you know income is only half the story. The other half is production costs. A $14,000 or $140,000 income per acre is meaningless if the costs of obtaining that income is equal to or larger than the income itself.
Farmers can earn a profit on low income crops when their costs of production are low too so comparing hay or poppies to algae really doesn't work if algae oil production costs are unknown.
No one discusses the cost of production of algae oil because it is going to be so high in comparison to production of oil from other sources that it isn't a serious competitor.
Like the 300 mile/gallon carburetor the “algae will replace imported oil” process just needs a little tweaking to work, tweaking like vastly reducing production costs.
Then there is opportunity costs, the same amount of money going into oil shale and/or coal would produce more oil at less costs and the country has plenty of both. Short and long term.
Algae is like opera, it's even worse than it sounds.
53 posted on 08/09/2008 10:24:38 AM PDT by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: count-your-change; larry hagedon; muffaletaman
[Farmers can earn a profit on low income crops when their costs of production are low too so comparing hay or poppies to algae really doesn't work if algae oil production costs are unknown.]
 
Larry, you seem to have addressed some of the issues raised by CYC?

54 posted on 08/09/2008 10:40:16 AM PDT by LomanBill (A bird flies because the right wing opposes the left.)
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To: count-your-change
"And at $10-$20 per gallon of algae oil I can see that petroleum is doomed. But with volume the price might drop to......? Only three times the cost of petroleum? Twice petroleum? Wonderful hype, terrible economics."

And what would petroleum cost if it were produced in the current small quantities that algae oil is??? The price-shrinking effect of "economies of scale" are incredible.

55 posted on 08/09/2008 10:48:11 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel-NRA)
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To: LomanBill
There are many very interesting technologies, oil producing algae for one, but many others including PV films, new batteries, etc., in the works that could be ready for prime time in 10 years or less. We have had the industrial revolution, the information age and next will be a revolution in energy. Imagine a world with cheap, abundant clean energy! We won't have to imagine it; we will live it.
56 posted on 08/09/2008 11:13:41 AM PDT by GBA
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To: LomanBill

Nope, just very interested in the potential. My personal familiarity with algae is trying to kill the stuff in a swimming pool, and while that sounds silly, there are some very interesting trivia surrounding it.

In my city, there are a lot of phosphates in the recycled water, which while harmless to humans is fertilizer to algae(*), meaning that the use of chlorine and algaecide are much greater than typical. But add to that my close proximity to a large, algae-ridden, man made lake, which generates enormous, if invisible clouds of spores, and most swimming pools in the area are green or brown.

To *stop* algae from growing is a full time job. It is the flip side to actually want it to grow.

(*) This was why the use of phosphates in laundry detergent was banned in the 1960s, as its runoff was causing algae blooms in fresh water that would de-oxygenate it and kill fish. Its use continued long after in dishwasher detergent (because it was exempted, dishwashers not being as popular then). Phosphates are also used in PVC pipe sealant, which adds a lot to both fresh water and sewage.

I will add to phosphates, that when you bubble CO2 and NOx gases through warm algae water, you get such tremendous algae growth that you can almost watch it.

I’ve tried to imagine what I would think to be the “ideal” algae farm for the southwestern US, and this is pretty much how I’ve imagined it.

First imagine a plowed farm field, with rows connected together accordion style, making one continuous path. In each row is a continuous shallow tub, just a few inches deep. At the bottom of each tub are “bubble strips” of plastic tube with little holes to bubble CO2 and NOx gases into the water. (The US Olympic swimming team uses such bubble strips to bubble oxygen gas into their pools to kill algae, as oxygen is far less irritating to the eyes and skin than is chlorine.)

The water flowing in a continuous path through the accordion tub is low quality water, whatever is available, likely recycled effluent. The water flows in one end, then out the other to be reused after being filtered.

Along the side of the top of the tub are runners and a conveyor belt trough. A small harvester goes the length of the tub and back, scooping up the algae and dumping it on the conveyor belt for processing.

One bit of high technology used would be that the tubs would be covered with “self-cleaning clear glass”. This is a new product made because of nanotechnology. A coating is sprayed on the glass that prevents grime or even water from sticking to it. The purpose of this low maintenance barrier is to keep foreign algae out of the tanks, yet to let in sunlight.

Otherwise, depending on the outdoor temperature, there might be a holding tank for the water that either slightly heats or cools it, when the temperature outside is either too cool or two warm.

Other than that, electronic monitoring of water temperature and salts, as well as trace amounts of growth enhancing fertilizer, and this should give maximum output with minimum cost.


57 posted on 08/09/2008 11:22:52 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: Wonder Warthog
Then reasonably one would apply those economies of scale to technology we have experience with like coal and/or oil shale that shows much more promise than algae oil. Even sewage to methane gas/oil has the benefit of turning a waste stream into several usable products and there is no shortage of feed stock.
Can you think of one advantage algae oil has that does not exist at lower cost in the use something else?
58 posted on 08/09/2008 11:25:47 AM PDT by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: count-your-change

Using algae for fuel forms a CO2 closed loop so unlimited amounts can be used. Coal and shale are one way and come with large amounts of extra CO2 emissions. We’re fine for now but if the world continues to catch up with America’s standard of living we’ll need closed loop or zero-emission technologies.


59 posted on 08/09/2008 11:48:37 AM PDT by Reeses (Leftism is powered by the evil force of envy.)
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To: LomanBill; Free Vulcan
The article has alot of wrong information in it

For example?

For example: Iowa, with an average insolation (the rate at which the sun’s radiation strikes a surface) of 170 watts per square meter,...

The global average is 1000 watts/meter^2

And: This green crude does not have the drawbacks of biodiesel, which needs special care in its storage, transport, and use (being no more than high-grade plant or vegetable oil

Biodiesel is made by putting biological oils (plant and animal) through a de-esterfication process, basically removing liquid plastic from it, it's a chemical reaction that requires using lye and ethanol. It is much more than "high-grade plant or vegetable oil".

I don't know if the author is ill-informed or deliberately misleading his audience because of an agenda, but he is definitely publishing incorrect information.

Cheers

60 posted on 08/09/2008 11:48:40 AM PDT by theymakemesick (The war on drugs benefits government agencies, politicians and drug dealers, they don't want to win.)
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