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To: Orkel
We had no business in Serbia. That is correct. And the Russians have no business in Georgia.

But in this case, Georgia is a real ally of ours whose soldiers have stood shoulder to shoulder with us in Iraq fighting the Islamic Jihad. They also have assisted in and help manage a multi-billion dollar pipeline that is part of our national interest which delivers a million barrels a day of oil to the Black Sea, lessening our and the Eurpean nations dependency on Mid-East and russian oil.

The Russians, if they depose the Georgian government and install their own puppoett, would then defacto control that oil.

So, we do have interests there, and a loyal ally. We should do all we can at this point, short of direct military intervetnion, to help them. Fly their troops from Iraq back home on our aircraft (which we are doing). we should offload them with a ton of Javelin missiles an other equipment to help in their fight. We should provide whatever logistical, material, and intelligence data possible.

And we should make clear to Putin that this is exactly what we are going to do and that the cost to Russia to take Georgia will be astronimically high in terms of losses, and the cost to him personally-politically will be just as high, and the cost economically from the west will also be atrocious to him.

Then, we should get as many eastern European states (who will immediately align with us if we will lead) and other European states involved as well.

Standing back and watching it happen will only embolden Putin and we will see more of the same until the situation is unretrievable without direct military action...now, I believe we can make a big difference without that, but only if we act forcefull, forthrightyl, and quickly.

590 posted on 08/11/2008 7:37:28 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Jeff Head
I would go further. F-18’s to kindly escort Russian bombers out of the area. Meanwhile have subs positioned to actively ping Russian ships simultaneously with a request from President Bush to cease fire. Try to do everything possible except actually engage in combat.
591 posted on 08/11/2008 7:45:22 AM PDT by In veno, veritas (Please identify my Ad Hominem attacks. I should be debating ideas.)
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To: Jeff Head

This is one of the exact reason why WE must drill for independence here in the USA and leave the rest of the world to their own.

I totally disagree that we should be involved in this conflict.

I did not agree with Russia being in Cuba!!


593 posted on 08/11/2008 8:09:21 AM PDT by Orkel
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To: Jeff Head

300,000 Shiite Muslims were our allie in Southern Iraq and the USA walked off and left them to fend for themselves.
Saddam sent the butcher to give them his regards.

Lesson number one!! Don’t never believe the liars in Washington are your friends.


597 posted on 08/11/2008 9:07:33 AM PDT by Orkel
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