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Doubts Arise In Bruce Ivins Case
NPR ^ | August 7, 2008 | Dina Temple-Raston and Madeleine Brand

Posted on 08/07/2008 11:30:43 PM PDT by CutePuppy

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OK folks, case closed, nothing to see here, move along, move along...

Interestingly, NPR seems to have extensive coverage of Ivins case, there are a lot of sidebars and links on the site. Other links, which have decent summations of events and [some ridiculous] accusations serving as FBI's claims of "motives" or "proof" so far:

U.S. Judge Unseals Documents In Anthrax Case - http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=93305949

Anthrax Suspect's Abortion Stance Eyed As Motive - http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=93385756

1 posted on 08/07/2008 11:30:43 PM PDT by CutePuppy
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To: CutePuppy

why was a seriously troubled man allowed a security clearance?


2 posted on 08/07/2008 11:38:23 PM PDT by woofie
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To: CutePuppy
oy. Well, a) my favorite writer beat them to it and (it happens quite often, actually, he tells me that's why he blogs -- because even if people "borrow" his ideas, he is contributing something),
b) I'll have to ask him how he feels about being on the same side of a story as NPR...
3 posted on 08/07/2008 11:39:38 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand
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To: All
RECAP:


FBI.gov: "ANTHRAX INVESTIGATION Closing a Chapter" (August 6, 2008)

FBI.gov: "AMERITHRAX INVESTIGATION Court Affidavits Unsealed in FBI Probe" (August 6, 2008)

US DOJ.gov/opa - Press Release: "COURT DOCUMENTS UNSEALED IN AMERITHRAX INVESTIGATION AVAILABLE ON LINE AT DOJ WEBSITE" August 6, 2008)

US DOJ.gov: "AMERITHRAX COURT DOCUMENTS"

FBI.gov: "AMERITHRAX INVESTIGATION"

FBI.gov: "AMERITHRAX: LINGUISTIC/BEHAVIORAL ANALYSIS" (November 9, 2001)

FBI.gov: "THE SEARCH FOR ANTHRAX"

FBI.gov: "OPENING OF THE LETTER" (PRESS RELEASE SNIPPET: "A letter addressed to Senator Patrick Leahy...")



Previously...


US DOJ.gov/opa - Press Release: "STATEMENT BY THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE ON THE ANTHRAX INVESTIGATION" (August 1, 2008)

FOX NEWS.com (AP): Washington - "SCIENTIST SUSPECTED IN 2001 ANTHRAX ATTACKS DEAD IN APPARENT SUICIDE" (August 1, 2008)

FBI.gov: "AMERITHRAX INVESTIGATION"

Link

4 posted on 08/07/2008 11:40:43 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: woofie
why was a seriously troubled man allowed a security clearance?

He wasn't "seriously troubled" until after they gave it to him.

5 posted on 08/07/2008 11:40:43 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand
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To: Cindy

nice work.


6 posted on 08/07/2008 11:41:28 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand
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To: the invisib1e hand

Thanks the invisible hand.

It’s good to know that anyone can open the links and read the documents if they so desire to.


7 posted on 08/07/2008 11:46:06 PM PDT by Cindy
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It's good to know that someone bothers to bring organization to information overload.

Especially this one, where there is such barrage of innuendoe being unleashed.

8 posted on 08/07/2008 11:47:47 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand
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To: the invisib1e hand

Evidently that was a lot of anthrax in the letters....How did Ivins weaponize it (dry it)? Ive been told its not an easy thing to do


9 posted on 08/07/2008 11:48:42 PM PDT by woofie
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To: the invisib1e hand

I agree.


10 posted on 08/07/2008 11:52:01 PM PDT by Cindy
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It would be interesting to pull up all the innuendo and statements by the FBI during the Hatfill did it part of the investigation that eventually cost the taxpayers more than $4.5 million dollars not including the cost of draining ponds all over the place. How much leaking to the media did the FBI do in those days when they were trying to convince us that they had the right guy?


11 posted on 08/07/2008 11:58:38 PM PDT by petitfour
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To: the invisib1e hand
a) Why, probably, for the same or similar reason that many post here on FR.

b) He and NPR may be on the same "side" in this case, but I doubt that it's for the same reasons. After all, this is "Bush administration's" FBI and DoJ. NPR does have the capability of creating good investigative reports, like some "Frontline" episodes which underwent prior bias-ectomy.

Nice blog... I'd call it a Death by Harassment and Innuendo. Wonder if anyone (or a number of people) in FBI or DOJ is or will be claiming a "credit" for cracking the case and catching the "mass murderer". It's a sure resume enhancement, isn't it, at least in terms of "creativity"?

12 posted on 08/08/2008 12:39:57 AM PDT by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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From http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=93305949 - U.S. Judge Unseals Documents In Anthrax Case :
Anthrax Linked To Lab

According to one source who has been briefed on the investigation, Ivins was one of fewer than a dozen people with access to the particular supply of anthrax they now believe was used in the 2001 attacks. In the seven years since the attacks, technology has improved and, sources say, investigators are now able to tie the anthrax bacteria to the Department of Defense lab in Maryland where the scientist worked.

Investigators now believe the anthrax used in the attacks was actually a mixture of spores with slight genetic variations, which gives it a specific signature and, more important, links it almost exclusively to the lab where Ivins worked.

One source familiar with the case against Ivins says the FBI has amassed an exhaustive report of times Ivins entered and left the lab in the days and weeks before the deadly letters were sent. The source says the logs show Ivins using the lab where the anthrax was present at times that could be viewed as suspicious, including late at night when he was there alone.

Ivins also had access to a sophisticated freeze-dryer, which could have been used to turn the wet bacteria into a dry form. Ivins' co-worker Jeff Adamovicz says he remembers the unit, called a lyopholizer, in the hallway and says it was used to dry protein samples for vaccine work. Adamovicz said the dryer was signed out to Ivins. Adamovicz remembers FBI agents testing the dryer, but they never hauled it away, a sign that it most likely came up clean. An additional piece of equipment would also have been required to mill the dried spores into a powdered form.

13 posted on 08/08/2008 1:11:12 AM PDT by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: petitfour

You’d have to ask the FBI that question petitfour.

Here is their website if you want to contact them:

http://www.fbi.gov


14 posted on 08/08/2008 1:13:05 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: CutePuppy

Thanks


15 posted on 08/08/2008 1:19:39 AM PDT by woofie
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Well, it ain’t like the FBI has screwed up an investigation before...


16 posted on 08/08/2008 2:00:16 AM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour
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He was an open, caring, honest man with a great sense of humor who was beloved by his friends and family."

So beloved his brother hadn't spoken to him in over 20 years.

17 posted on 08/08/2008 2:34:27 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: petitfour

Bear in mind that some of the same folks that were behind the attack on Hatfill are the ones covering for Ivins now.


18 posted on 08/08/2008 2:38:46 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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So beloved his brother hadn't spoken to him in over 20 years.

We can choose or lose our friends and associates, we can't choose our relatives.

We don't know his brother, but if they were estranged from each other for so long, neither did he know Bruce Ivins that his colleagues knew.

19 posted on 08/08/2008 3:03:13 AM PDT by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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Ivin’s lawyer is also the lawyer for the Thomas Tamm, the suspected leaker of the NSA ‘eavesdropping’ program ; that leak has done a lot of damage to our ability to gain time-critical information from terrorist communications abroad and as it happens, has crippled us in acquiring the hard evidence that enables us to get convictions without relying on purely circumstantial evidence.


20 posted on 08/08/2008 3:10:20 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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