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To: cynwoody
Dear cynwoody,

You are soooooo wrong!

The spores came from other spores that were like them. They were not magically dreamed up by Ivins.

Original collection of genotype 62 spores was in 1981 in southern Texas under a windmill from a Beefmaster heifer that died of anthrax. The sample was collected by a vet named Whitford. He sent them to the diagnostic lab at College Station Texas for identification. College Station then sent them to Iowa State University, probably their diagnostic lab but could have been the vet school there. Everyone knew that ISU had a historically collection of anthrax.

From there the ISU folks sent it to Ft. Detrick to a Dr. Knudson who had requested that any particularly virulent samples be forwarded to him. They still have the wrapper and it shows an Ames, Iowa postmark.

There was, in 1981 and through the mid 1990’s a professor named Cheville. He worked part time in the diagnostic lab and part time in the vet school. Did he see to it that the sample was added to the historical collection?

There was a building north of campus with a bio-level three set of air cleaners on the NW quadrant. That was the USDA testing facility. They studied anthrax and mastitis in that building.

The vet school was a huge set of buildings along I-80. Lots of different labs in there. The historically collection was in the vet school and the working collection was at the USDA facility.

I was a grad student at Iowa State from Jan 1989 to April 1991. On November 29, 1990, the woman who sat across from me in class received a package with her address, but the name of a Pakistani from Faisalabad in her mailbox. Well she opened it before she realized it was not intended for her.

All this made her late to class and she made a big presentation of why she was late.

Within 48 hours both she and her husband had pimple like sores, each had one, that DID NOT HURT.....SHE SAID....IT ONLY HURTS WHEN I LOOK AT IT.

The next Monday the physician at the student health center told her it was a spider or bug bite.

I viewed her sore on Thursday.....exactly one week after she opened the package. And by the way, she took the package to the Pakistani and that made her even later to class. He told her he was glad to get it and was expecting it.

Then on December 14, while sitting in the waiting room, (I was sick too but with a bad root canal) I saw the husbands sore. Same sore. Same drip, drip, drip that Judith Miller states the mailed anthrax caused the postal workers.

Yes, I have been interviewed. They are ignoring my testimony just like they are ignoring the witnesses who saw rockets going up to TWA 800.

Fellow Freepers. I am going to get this to someone who can write it all down. Only one of the three Postal Inspectors wanted to believe me. But they were under tremendous pressure to find someone to hang this on. Five days after the first guy died, Iowa State University destroyed this historical collection and all the records of who had access.

268 posted on 08/31/2008 1:28:09 PM PDT by Battle Axe (Repent for the coming of the Lord is nigh!)
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To: Battle Axe; ZACKandPOOK
If the anthrax used in the attacks is descended from the 1990 sample you mention, and not from Dr. Ivins's RMR 1029 strain, then its genetic makeup should have diverged more than far enough for modern DNA sequencing to tell.

Assuming the genetic analysis is correct, we are left with determining who besides Ivins might have done it. ZACKandPOOK has pointed out that there was a sand nazi who for a time was close enough to steal some of it and send it off to comrades who prepared it for the envelopes. I refer to Ali Al-Timimi, whose life + 70 sentence might be considerably shortened if the FBI could complete their investigation properly.

270 posted on 08/31/2008 2:01:19 PM PDT by cynwoody
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