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1 posted on 08/07/2008 11:49:07 AM PDT by Shermy
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To: Shermy

That “acted alone” phrase sure sounds familiar .


2 posted on 08/07/2008 11:50:30 AM PDT by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it , freedom has a flavor the protected will never know)
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To: Shermy
FBI owes apologies to drained swamps all over Maryland.

Maybe now they can catch Whitey Bulger.

3 posted on 08/07/2008 11:51:35 AM PDT by AU72
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To: Shermy

‘presenting a sweeping but circumstantial case’

How profound.


4 posted on 08/07/2008 11:52:30 AM PDT by BGHater (Democracy is the road to socialism.)
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To: TrebleRebel; jpl; Mitchell; Allan; Calpernia; Stentor; okie01; blackdog; The Invisible Hand; ...
IMO, this is the least bad story. One fault falling for the FBI word play:
He wrote scores of letters to members of Congress and the news media, sometimes under assumed names, the documents said. Investigators wrote that the mailings were “significant since all of the anthrax-laden letters were sent to” media organizations and Congress.
But see here:

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2008/0806081anthrax5.html

The FBI said "hundreds" of letters to and FROM "various members of society". Only "Among others" were to Senators and "various news organizations" (I bet mostly his local paper)>

Then the next paragraph focuses on media and Senate.

But there is nothing in this, when examined closely, that says letters to Senators and media were more than 1% of the letters. Maybe 5%. If it were 95% the FBI would be waving that flag. Additionally, did he write before to any of the victims?

6 posted on 08/07/2008 11:57:48 AM PDT by Shermy (OOOOOOObama where the waffles come sweeping down the plains)
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To: Shermy

“acted alone”

So what was the ‘until very recently’ heavy promotion of the angle that Hatfill was the one behind it?


7 posted on 08/07/2008 11:58:25 AM PDT by weegee (Hi there.)
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To: Shermy
The big news is not that Ivins did it. I don't know if that can ever be proven beyond a reasonable doubt. Rather, it's that new, advanced genetic technology has made it possible to narrow down the origin of the anthrax to that specific lab. And that makes it overwhelmingly likely it was an inside job by a disgruntled federal employee and not AQ terrorism.

Before the genetic analysis, all we knew was that it was the Ames strain and could have come from any number of labs around the world. But apparently the cost of sequencing a particular sample has come down a thousand fold between 2002 and now (I read an estimate of $500K to $500). Of course, the whole conclusion turns on the validity of the new techniques.

8 posted on 08/07/2008 11:58:49 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Shermy
Dear FBI,

You're lying.

Again.

Love,

L

9 posted on 08/07/2008 12:01:55 PM PDT by Lurker (Islam is an insane death cult. Any other aspects are PR to get them within throat-cutting range.)
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To: Shermy

Surprise, surprise. No mention in the NY Times about Ivins being a long time and active Democrat.

Confirms one suspicion I’ve long held; at least some Democrats write scores of letters under assumed names - lying effectively - in order to make their numbers seem larger than they are or conceal biases.


10 posted on 08/07/2008 12:02:40 PM PDT by hoyaloya
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To: Shermy

I don’t believe it.

For one thing, how did this suspect know that the newspapermen killed in Florida, had a real estate agent wife who once helped the 911 hijackers find a place to live?

Whoever did this not only had anthrax, but what must have been secret information.


18 posted on 08/07/2008 12:28:12 PM PDT by Age of Reason
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To: Shermy

Some good blasts from the past:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/newsnight/archive/1873368.stm

http://www.thedossier.ukonline.co.uk/Web%20Pages/ASSOCIATED%20PRESS_Prior%20Knowledge%20of%20Anthrax%20Threat.htm

‘Asked if he was tested for the germ that has killed three people already this month, or if he was taking precautionary antibiotics, Bush replied simply: ``I don’t have anthrax.’’

At least some White House personnel were given Cipro six weeks ago. White House officials won’t discuss that, or who might be receiving the anthrax-treating antibiotic now.

``If the White House were to start to reveal the security measures including health protections that are in place for the president ... people who would want to do harm to the president would know what protections are in place and therefore they could shift their tactics,’’ Fleischer said.

On the night of the Sept. 11 attacks, the White House Medical Office dispensed Cipro to staff accompanying Vice President Dick Cheney as he was secreted off to the safety of Camp David, and told them it was a precaution, according to one person directly involved.

At that time, nobody could guess the dimensions of the terrorists’ plot. ‘


20 posted on 08/07/2008 12:35:54 PM PDT by BGHater (Democracy is the road to socialism.)
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To: Shermy

There you have it. A homegrown American Terrorist takes the easy way out.


25 posted on 08/07/2008 12:46:20 PM PDT by trumandogz ("He is erratic. He is hotheaded. He loses his temper and it worries me." Sen Cochran on McCain)
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To: Shermy
Here's my theory:


29 posted on 08/07/2008 1:02:58 PM PDT by Nick Danger (www.swiftvets.com)
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To: Shermy

I wonder if the FBI can show how Ivins suppossedly produced such a
high-quality, non-milled, weakly-charged, polyglass-coated spores.
A former colleague of Ivins wrote a good article that appeared
in The Wall Street Journal on Aug. 5 detailing FBI descriptions of
the anthrax spores that were used in the attacks...and multiple qualities
that Ivins almost certainly couldn’t have built into those spores.

As I don’t have on-line access to WSJ, I’ll post a little bit of
the controversy as mentioned on CNN:

FBI accused of hardball tactics in anthrax case
http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/08/06/fbi.tactics/?iref=mpstoryview

(excerpt from end of article)
Peter Hotez, chairman of microbiology at George Washington University,
rejected the government’s contention that Ivins’ access to a sophisticated
lab device called a lyophilizer — used to dry anthrax — was in
any way damning.

And Richard Spertzel, a former colleague of Ivins at Fort Detrick,
said there was “no way” a lyophilizer could have created the fine
anthrax spores used in the 2001 letters.

In addition, Spertzel said, no one working at a U.S. government
lab could have produced such high quality anthrax in secret.


40 posted on 08/07/2008 1:38:34 PM PDT by VOA
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To: Shermy

My opinion is that heads should roll over this at the FBI. The evidence that they are incompetent is as compelling as is their evidence that this Ivins guy is guilty.


42 posted on 08/07/2008 1:59:48 PM PDT by petitfour
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To: Shermy

How convenient..


46 posted on 08/07/2008 2:24:27 PM PDT by cardinal4 (Drill Now, Vote Nobama, and Oust the Third Word Democrat Congress)
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To: Shermy
F.B.I. Presents Anthrax Case, Saying Scientist Acted Alone

After nearly seven years of a troubled investigation, a guy kills himself and it turns out he's completely to blame and acted alone.

How convenient.

54 posted on 08/07/2008 6:18:47 PM PDT by RJL
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To: Calpernia; milford421; DAVEY CROCKETT; Velveeta

Ping.


55 posted on 08/07/2008 6:24:16 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1990507/posts?page=451 SURVIVAL, RECIPES, GARDENS, & INFO)
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To: Shermy
But some independent scientists, friends and colleagues of Dr. Ivins remained skeptical, noting that officials admitted that more than 100 people had access to the supply of anthrax that matched the powder in the letters.

This could be a movie with treachery by the FBI. I'm not happy with the way they've smeared this man without positive proof...

69 posted on 08/08/2008 7:13:56 AM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: Shermy

The FBI finally get’s it’s man. I wonder if this Ivins guy is also the one who designed the center fuel tank on flight 800? Ha! Two birds with one stone and we don’t even need one of those pesky trials. s/


245 posted on 08/19/2008 8:46:26 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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