Posted on 08/07/2008 5:41:15 AM PDT by MindBender26
It Aint Over Till The Fat Lady Sings - - And She Just Hired New Songwriters
The Washington New York news phones lines were buzzing last night and again this morning. The news is considered so volatile two national news producers were telephoned after 11:30 last night for their input. The story? Hillary Clinton is removing her support (such as it was) from Barack Obama and plans for a knock-down floor fight for the nomination at the Democrat Convention in Denver.
The reason for this is simple, she thinks she can win the nomination, and only she can win the General, and so do many top old line Dems.
Support for Obama from the Washington Dem power elite has been all but absent in the last month. The Super Senators, Kennedy, Biden, Dodd, Schumer and others have not been making headlines for Obama. Terry McAuliffe has been all but silent, and Screamin Dean; who pressed his mute button? The two co-chairs of the national Our Great-Great-Great Grandfathers were oppressed so give us money crusade, Jackson and Sharpton must be on tour in Mongolia, because they havent been making headlines for Obama here.
One overriding argument pervades all their thinking, Obama cant win the National, and Hillary can. The poll results after Obamas We Is The World tour have been a disaster. It provided a dip, rather than a bump for Barack! Pollsters expected him to be at least 12 to 14 points ahead now, and he is even at best. Obama always gets results about 4% less than he polls, so if the election were held today, it would be McCain in monstrous win.
The Obama decline is clearly indicated in one supposed battleground state, Florida. Obama was up until recently. Now Obama is now down 6 among all voters and one reliable unreleased poll has McCain up 8 among the likely voters. On top of it all, Obama is still sinking, and what possible new message to attract voters does he have? When he shouts We Must Change, the crowd is thinking, Oh, hes changing his position again.
I was with him in Lakeland last week (on assignment.) The small crowd was NOT pumped at all.
With that in mind, Hillary is warming up the crowds, and the hormones. She has had the Summer off. She is rested. There was plenty of time for charm lessons.
She can go to Denver not officially supporting, but certainly not discouraging, a floor vote movement. Her mantra? Count Every Vote!
The upstarts message would be very clear; We Want Hillary For President, and She Wants It Too!
Hillary would never attack Obama publicly, but loudly decry Those Republicans for Baracks disastrous slide in the polls.
Remember, she is only a few votes behind him in the Dem delegate count, has never released her delegates, and the delegates, especially the Superdelegates, can vote for whomever they wish. There is no legal mandate to support the candidate they promised to support back when they were elected in the primaries.
Who would support Hillary? The list is extensive.
First, old line Dem Labor. They have votes, a volunteering machine and money . and are far from wild about Obama.
Secondly, the Gay vote. They rarely declare WHY they are for a candidate, but they have huge amounts of money, and are madly in love with Hillary (in more ways than one, perhaps?)
The Dem political machine, all the way down to county level. They want coattails.
The Hispanic vote. Hispanics dont like Obama, (or Blacks in general) very much. Hispanics love Hillary.
The Women. Down deep, the Rev. Wright may be acceptable to the far-left wing of the Dem party but he scares the hell out of middle of the road women. Dems can expect the Republican 527s to pound that Rev. Wright-Obama connection again and again in the General.
Hard-core Feminists. Do we need an explanation here?
Finally, the Black vote! Of course there would be a revolt in the ranks for about 10 days. But then Jackson and Sharpton would explain that it was necessary because of the all the damage Republicans had done to Obama . and a Clinton - -Obama ticket is orgasmic for Dems.
Why would Jackson and Sharpton be onboard? Because they have to be, and because they hate Obama. He didnt pay his dues in blood in the streets of Selma. He didnt March with Martin.
Worst of all for them, an Obama in the White House takes away all the Poor Oppressed Black People Need Government Help (and our help, personally) rap that has empowered Jackson and Sharpton for decades. Also, Obama is an ACORN man, not Rainbow/PUSH or National Action Network.
Obama would be told, You cannot win. Thats your fault. Take the VP slot and smile and be President in eight years, or leave quietly now.
Bottom line, Hillary reassembles the entire classic Democrat Liberal coalitions Dems need to win. High-level Dems are not dumb, at least not stupid, at least in the world of down and dirty electoral politics. They will do what they need to do to win.
In the end, the media would love the fight and the Obama supporters would hate it for a few weeks, then fall in line behind Hillary. They are pragmatists, not racial ideologs. They would do anything to defeat McCain.
Will this happen? Time will tell, but Hillary is certainly, and quietly, pushing it very hard.
I am sure that yo have full evidence of that. Do you know when and where they met? (extreme sarcasm).
Yes, but they are that stupid, r.e.,Howard Dean.
http://archives.cnn.com/2002/ALLPOLITICS/10/01/elec02.nj.s.torricelli.race/
What evidence do you have of this?
The last thing I want to see is Hillary as nominee and then president.
If there is some sort of conspiracy to that effect, please give us the proof, so that we can expose her before it's too late.
For being around so long, you act like a n00b. Threads in News/Activism needs links or it’s a VANITY post.
I can see Her Hillaryness in a much more Macchiavellian role. Ostensibly supporting Obama while sinking him so she can run in four years.
I don’t think she or the Dems are quite ready to say goodbye to the black vote if she bumps him off the ticket down to VP.
My son who lives in New York worked for both the Gore and Kerry Campaigns and then for Hillary.
He told me the other night that he would not vote for Obama for president under any circumstances.
He was telling me somewhat this same scuttlebutt that the news on the liberal grapevine is that Obama is a severely flawed candidate.
That the radical liberals took away the Democrats only viable candidate.
I really don't want Hillary to get the nomination, it will be harder for McCain to beat her, but I think she will get it. I think at the convention she is going to unleash the dogs of Hell(forget about the wimpy dogs of war)on Obama.
Cuz their National approval ratings are lower than the President's and as a result they've been told by Obama's handlers to keep their traps shut.
Terry McAuliffe has been all but silent, and Screamin Dean; who pressed his mute button?
Cuz their National approval ratings are lower than the President's and as a result they've been told by Obama's handlers to keep their traps shut.
The two co-chairs of the national Our Great-Great-Great Grandfathers were oppressed so give us money crusade, Jackson and Sharpton must be on tour in Mongolia, because they havent been making headlines for Obama here.
Cuz their National approval ratings are lower than the President's and as a result they've been told by Obama's handlers to keep their traps shut.
hellary has been off the radar, and so has bill, all summer - while The One has not been able to pull it out. mccain has been successful against osamabama with his ads. Can he do the same against hellary?
I was afraid of this.
It ain't over till the fat lady sinks!
OK then speculate. It is so easy to do so on the internet.
It could happen, I suppose.
I doesn’t matter which one is nominated, there will be a segment of the demonrats who won’t vote for the nominee.
But, but...100,000 screaming Germans loved him!!
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Yep. And the Germans did the same thing many years ago. They were wrong.
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