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How Obama and the Democrats Screwed Up on Drilling (Will the RATS pay a price for this stupidity?)
NY Observer ^ | 8/06/08 | Steve Kornacki

Posted on 08/06/2008 3:18:33 PM PDT by Libloather

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The Democrats are supposed to own the issue of energy...

The RATS own the the issue of LIMITING energy. Just ax Algore.

1 posted on 08/06/2008 3:18:34 PM PDT by Libloather
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To: Libloather
Will the RATS pay a price for this stupidity?

No.

2 posted on 08/06/2008 3:21:10 PM PDT by Old Sarge (CTHULHU '08 - I won't settle for a lesser evil any longer!)
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To: Libloather
The RATS, with Obama leading the way, are anti-American and their energy policy reflects it to a tea.

OBAMA'S DIVERSE VISION OF AMERICA



THE AUDACITY OF TRUTH ABOUT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA'S CIRCLE OF FRIENDS


CHOOSING THE NEXT PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES




NOBAMA MOVEMENT SPREADS ACROSS THE NATION

3 posted on 08/06/2008 3:21:14 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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With t-Bone Pickens, Geo. Sore@$$ and Warren Buffet-line using their profits in oil speculation to support Sen. Osama, oil will plummet and Americans will forget $4.00 gas election day...
4 posted on 08/06/2008 3:25:20 PM PDT by kcm.org (Conservatives bashing Sen. McCain has Ronald Reagan spinning in his grave!!!)
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5 posted on 08/06/2008 3:26:24 PM PDT by vietvet67
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Now, I only see the Dims getting 3 extra seats in the Senate.


6 posted on 08/06/2008 3:28:51 PM PDT by Red Steel (..._ _....)
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In fact, “use-it-or-lose-it” actually reinforces the G.O.P.’s message, since it encourages voters to view gas prices as an issue of supply, and not demand.

Say’s law wins every time.


7 posted on 08/06/2008 3:29:09 PM PDT by ari-freedom (Obamuh uh uh uh uh uh uh ummmmmm)
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Paris Hilton Supports Drilling!
8 posted on 08/06/2008 3:31:43 PM PDT by sono (It's a shame the Republicans took a pass on nominating a candidate for President this year.)
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In fact, "use-it-or-lose-it" actually reinforces the G.O.P.'s message, since it encourages voters to view gas prices as an issue of supply, and not demand.

OUCH! This statement just make my brain hurt. Why do these people have such a hard time understanding the supply side of economics?

9 posted on 08/06/2008 3:35:16 PM PDT by chaos_5 (Nancy "Mad Cow" Pelosi, call the House back into session!)
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Schnitt is working mightily on getting a FReep of SanFranNan down in Coral Gables, right about now. He also wants her to return to an office in DC awash in drill bits. We're talking a $2 investment here, folks.

10 posted on 08/06/2008 3:36:26 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (College kid: "Do you have a minute for Obama?" NVA: "Not now or ever.")
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The decision on whether to allow off-shore drilling is utterly inconsequential to the matter of lowering gas prices.

This author either doesn't know or play down the future supply expectation. With a decision to drill now, people can expect that future supply will increase. Just see what happened when President Bush announced his lifting ban on off-shore drilling.

11 posted on 08/06/2008 3:38:16 PM PDT by paudio (Like it or not, 'conservatism' is a word with many meanings. Yours may be different from mine.)
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WOW...this libbie reporter sounds desperate....LOL

Would love to get a look at the CURRENT internal polling on this ‘debate’ that Queen Nazi won’t allow.

They must be in really BIG TROUBLE!!


12 posted on 08/06/2008 3:38:47 PM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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This bunch of well-educated idiots knows squat about economics.

Futures markets influence the spot market and you're right a big factor in the market is anticipated future capacity. With prices this high and not justified by any shortages, future expectations are a huge factor.

13 posted on 08/06/2008 3:43:50 PM PDT by colorado tanker (Number nine, number nine, number nine . . .)
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No.

My thoughts as well. MSM will cover for them and oil is coming down. Over the long term their policies will hurt us but I see no short term consequences.

Here is a good reason why SanFran Nan couldn't care less - Pelosi to at-risk Dems: Go ahead and oppose me on drilling (I suggest reading the post and the source article).

14 posted on 08/06/2008 3:45:23 PM PDT by batter (Oxymoron: An Obama bumper sticker on an SUV)
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To: NonValueAdded

Do you have any idea what a drill bit costs? Last I heard they were very expensive. Thieves were stealing them etc.


15 posted on 08/06/2008 3:45:59 PM PDT by GrannyK
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“It should be stipulated the G.O.P.’s “Drill now!” mantra is, from a policy standpoint, every bit the same red herring as the gas tax holiday. It will be years before even a drop of oil is reaped from off-shore drilling, and even that won’t really matter in the context of a global market in which demand is nearing 100 million barrels per day. Sure, off-shore drilling won’t hurt gas prices - in the same way that returning an empty Coke can for the nickel deposit won’t hurt your effort to save up for a house. The decision on whether to allow off-shore drilling is utterly inconsequential to the matter of lowering gas prices...”


This is what happens when reporters think they are economists. As Sowell repeats endlessly in his book “Basic Economics”, economics is the study of the allocation of scarce resources with alternative uses - which includes the dimension of time.

Imagine you have an oil well in your back yard, and you see the price of oil going up and up and up, driven by demand from China and India, with much higher prices predicted for the future. When your oil well contractor tells you that if you give him a few bucks, he can increase your oil well flow by 20%... do you do it? Or do you tell him to wait a while, because you will get much more money for that oil later? (e.g., sell that barrel of oil now for $120, or next year for $200?)

Then ... you hear that the FEDs are going to start drilling in ANWR, and off the coast of Florida over by Cuba ... thus increasing the supply in a few years. You now get worried that the price will continue up a little bit for a few years, then fall when ANWR and Florida oil come on line. What do you do now? You probably open up your oil spigot as wide as possible to get as much money as possible while the price is high, expecting the price to drop later. Other people do the same, increasing the supply, and prices go down NOW.

Thus, announcing that we are going to start oil production in ANWR and offshore in a few years results in decreases in prices today. Unlike politician (who are only concerned about the next election) and journalists (who are only worried about making the next deadline), oil producers look long term, and act accordingly.

And Adam Smith’s “invisible hand” strikes again, providing lower prices when the government stops interfering in the marketplace.


16 posted on 08/06/2008 3:46:23 PM PDT by Mack the knife
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It should be stipulated the G.O.P.'s Ag Industry's "Drill Plant now!" mantra is, from a policy standpoint, every bit the same red herring as the gas harvest tax holiday. It will be years months before even a drop of oil bushel of wheat is reaped from off-shore drilling planting fields, and even that won't really matter in the context of a global market in which demand is nearing 100 million barrels bushels per day.

(juxtaposed illogic as if the issue were food and not oil)

17 posted on 08/06/2008 3:47:44 PM PDT by Mr_Moonlight
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How the Democrats Screwed Up on Drilling. They've actually screwed up the energy industry for decades. It was as though on purpose.

Why would they do this? There has to be a reason.

Obama: "It is going to take nothing less than a complete transformation of our economy. Energy independence will require all hands on deck from America."

Change: a complete transformation of our economy.

Ohhhhh.. I see. That's why.

Obama has brought the Stalinist Rat Party (formerly the traditional, patriotic Democratic Party) out into the open!

18 posted on 08/06/2008 3:57:15 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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It should be stipulated the G.O.P.'s "Drill now!" mantra is, from a policy standpoint, every bit the same red herring as the gas tax holiday.

Nonsense. The author completely disregards the expectations side of the free market, which has demonstrated time and again that changing the expectations changes the market behavior. Expecting higher supply will have a drawdown effect on the price.

Even W's unilateral recission of the presidential ban on offshore drilling had a pronounced effect.

Just my $.02.

19 posted on 08/06/2008 3:57:15 PM PDT by MortMan (Those who stand for nothing fall for anything. - Alexander Hamilton)
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Why do these people have such a hard time understanding the supply side of economics?

They have the same problem with the demand side. In the event of a supply shortage, their solution is "demand less" and not "supply more."

While "demand less" works in the short term, if the demand isn't met by an increase in supply, and if prices are capped, "demand less" doesn't work, and new supplies aren't ever brought to market, resulting in over-use of the current resources to the point of unprofitability, after which point government is forced to step in and subsidize supply, granting exceptional powers to the government in the process.

Sounds like Liberal Plan "A" to me.

20 posted on 08/06/2008 3:59:56 PM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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