Posted on 08/05/2008 2:14:48 PM PDT by pissant
OTTAWA (AFP) — A Chinese immigrant who stabbed, gutted and beheaded a fellow passenger on a bus traveling across Canada last week also cannibalized the victim and pocketed his nose, lips and ear, a court heard Tuesday.
Vince Weiguang Li, 40, of Edmonton faces a second-degree murder charge in the horrific case.
The victim has been identified by friends as Tim McLean, a young man of 22 years who was returning home to Winnipeg from a job as a carnival worker in Edmonton in Western Canada.
In his second court appearance, Li was overheard saying "please kill me," his interim defense lawyer Randy Janis told AFP.
Prosecutors said he appeared to be eating pieces of his victim when police surrounded the bus on a desolate highway about 90 kilometers (55 miles) west of Winnipeg last week immediately following the July 30 attack.
Li had decapitated the victim and was taunting police and bystanders with the head, the Crown said.
According to reports, McLean had been asleep, his cheek pressed against the window of the bus when his assailant struck suddenly, stabbing him repeatedly in the chest with a "big Rambo knife."
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Thank you. I guess i should have read the article. I was aware of the incident from various sources but no details.
Still reprehensible.
Is there the slightest possibility that there are reasons someone might assume a crime involving a beheading would likely be committed by a Muslim?
Uncontrolled immigration of the mentally ill can result in, ummm, problems....
True, from the witness accounts there was no warning of the attack. Hard to believe there was absoultely no planning on his part, though, since the victim was asleep.
Did you see this eyewitness account?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkrHkHxHPIM
Can you think of any reason they should?
True, but some have Arabized those names, some have not. More of the detainees seem to have done so than the other Uyghurs on that page.
However while most Uyghurs are Muslim, not all Chinese Muslims are Uyghurs. Some are even Han.
Time will tell. All we can say now is that this guy's actions resemble those of a member of the ROP who gets SJS.
Time will indeed tell, but after seeing the contortions some people went through here to put the Virginia Tech shooter into that basket, along with every other lunatic who has gone on a killing spree in the western world over the last seven years, only to have them almost all turn out to be regular old homicidal lunatics, I'll put my money on that turning out to be the case here, as well.
How many of them "cut the neck" of heir victims, meaning decapitated them. (Other than as a part of general dismembering of the body to aid getting rid of it)
How many decapitations have there been among the small group of SJS attacks? Any? The only ones I can think of have been in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan, and came at the end of a lengthy kidnapping, not as a sudden, individual outburst.
Good point. But it is still a Koranic command to "Cut their necks".
From the usc.edu compendium of Muslim Texts:
008.012 YUSUFALI: Remember thy Lord inspired the angels (with the message): "I am with you: give firmness to the Believers: I will instil terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them."
PICKTHAL: When thy Lord inspired the angels, (saying): I am with you. So make those who believe stand firm. I will throw fear into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Then smite the necks and smite of them each finger.
SHAKIR: When your Lord revealed to the angels: I am with you, therefore make firm those who believe. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them.
I did a bit of research, and found that there are several distinct groups of "Chinese" Muslims. One is ethnically (meaning physically, not culturally) indistinguishable from other Han Chinese. Although they are called "Hui" people. They speak the same language as the Han and dress very much the same, with he exception the women covering their heads. They also have adapted the Han cuisine to fit the Islamic dietary restrictions. Some have distinctive names, others do not.
Another group is the Uighurs, who are ethnically Turkic, (like the Kirghiz). Much of the current attention is focused on this more "unruly" group.
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