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Duley told the court she got to know Ivins while running group and individual counseling sessions at the Comprehensive Counseling Associates in Frederick where she worked as the program director.

the shrink is often the least sane person in the room.

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Ivins had been interviewed 20 to 25 times in the case

Now if that doesn't wear someone down I have no idea what will.

I was rattled after one meeting with the IRS about 20 years ago.

I always figured you could finally get the truth out of the target in no more than 10 questions. It takes up to 20 questions sometimes to get an agreement to comply with the "bill" ~ (this was not for IRS but a different government agency that had to "collect" from folks who'd not sufficiently paid postage ~ mostly large mailers and nonprofits.)

Most attorneys who've handled criminal cases pretty much follow the same rule of thumb},

It's safe to imagine that Ivins didn't get past 5 questions before hallucinating. That's why they had 20 or so sessions with him. FBI guys (and we have to assume the psychiatric personnel working with this guy were under their authority or influence) usually have a difficult time dealing with such people. That's why they work outside their credentials as accountants or lawyers ~ something like a high order borderline personality disorder except that here the "victim" finds it pleasing to force others into compliance with his or her orders.