Posted on 08/05/2008 7:20:42 AM PDT by pissant
Independent analysts, working separately, have discovered that the original Hawaiian Certificate of Live Birth used in the fabrication of the Barack Obama "birth certificate" belongs to the Presidential candidate's younger half-sister, Maya.
Examining the high resolution image originally posted by the "Daily Kos" left-wing blog and subsequently claimed as authentic by the campaign, and posted in lower resolution on the campaign official "Fight the Smears" website, at least two analysts have been able to independently discern the name "Maya Kassandra Soetoro" from artifacts left behind in the process of forging a new fake document for Barack from an image of Maya's original document. Additional confirmatory information, such as her birthday and the nationality of her father have also been resurrected. A full report documenting all details is to be published in the coming days.
The dramatic development comes just a day after a forensic specialist, posting on the Texas Darling blog under the name Techdude (his real name is known to Israel Insider), announced the discovery of the identity of the original owner of the COLB document used in the forgery but would initially only indicate that it was a woman born in the 1970's. However, he provided enough clues to enable another graphic specialist (screen name KG) to independently reproduce the incriminating evidence. (Techdude had said that he wanted to give the guilty parties time to confess to the forgery, but also to allow independent confirmation of his discovery. He even offered to pay for a trip to Vegas to the first person to discover the name and detail the method by which it was discovered.)
According to Texas Darling, which exclusively published these latest revelations, there is more to come: "In the coming days, Techdude will provide a final report that fully discloses his discovery, and provides all the fancy technical data, images, formulae etc. that everyone has come to expect. He will respond to questions posted on this blog to the best of his ability. (NOTE: KG has asked Techdude to donate the trip funds to help retire Hillary's debt, and Techdude has agreed.)" In the meantime, KG has posted details on how artifacts of the name "Maya Kassandra Soetero" were discerned.
The revelation that the COLB of Obama's own sister was evidently used to create the electronic forgery represents a "smoking gun" that appears to implicate Senator Obama directly. Hawaii law limits access to vital records to family members only, a fact which slowed down the ability of researchers to compare the purported Obama "birth certificate" -- which displayed from the start a peculiar provenance and inexplicable features -- to genuine specimens. Therefore, it would seem that either Maya K. Soetoro-Ng (as she is now called) supplied the document or its image to half-brother Barack or his campaign, or Obama/his campaign used it without her permission.
It appears unlikely, to say the least, that the campaign would have independently managed to obtain Maya's COLB, forged Barak's fake COLB using Maya's original, and verified the result as genuine without the candidate's knowledge and involvement. This is particularly true given the high profile treatment with which the campaign has treated the purported veracity of the supposed "birth certificate" in its Fight the Smears website. The apparent use of the Soetero document increases the likelihood of direct Obama involvement in the supply, production, and/or propagation of the forgery.
The stakes couldn't be higher. Even the Snopes anti-rumor site acknowledges that Obama's constitutional fitness to be president depends solely on his being born in the United States, because his mother -- not yet 19 at the time of his birth -- would not have had a sufficient number of years as an adult citizen, according to the laws prevailing at the time, to pass on "natural born citizenship" automatically.
There have been reports, so far unconfirmed, that Obama was born outside the country, either in Kenya, his presumed father's native land, or in Canada. The fact that the Obama campaign has been touting as genuine a forgery since June 12 will likely increase pressure to not only account for the fake but produce a genuine paper birth certificate. Obama, in his book Dreams from My Father, specifically mentioned having such a document in his possession, but it has not been submitted for public inspection or analysis if it in fact exists.
Intriguingly, too, Maya Soetoro-Ng is believed to have been born outside the United States, in Indonesia, so her apparent ownership of a Hawaiian Certificate of Live Birth raises questions about how such a document was produced for an Indonesian-born girl. That, too, may shed light on Barack Obama's citizenship status and his ability, or inability, to document it.
Ironically, but perhaps not coincidentally, the Obama campaign has challenged the credentials of Republican opponent John McCain, because he makes no secret of being born out of the country, in Panama. But both of McCain's parents were Americans so, unlike Obama, are by statute able to pass on natural born citizen status to their foreign-born child.
Thanks — there would be some effect but I am still skeptical as to the effect being total. It’s just that I’ve worked with equipment that pulsed kilo-amps, and also had to help condition high-lightning hit environments.
I don’t “know” in the great cosmic sense of absolute truth, but,
When both sides are playing to lose, I can’t help but “know” in my heart that neither wants to be the one holding the bag when the chit hits the fan.
We are on the threshold of the point where all those entitlement bills become due and payable, among dozens of other problems coming to a head.
I don’t think the next 4 years will be pleasant. Whichever party is not in power will run against the disaster for a generation or two, like the dems did against Hoover and Nixon.
I assume that you are talking about McCain’s birth certificate, and I do think that it would say the military base, not the city in Panama. Can you imagine a US birth certificate stating a city in Panama.
I believe you!! Lol.
Maybe Obama’s mother had one of those under water birthing experiences or a just plain home birth and never registered it. She was weird enough to do something like that, but it wouldn’t disqualify him from being president, just create a bit of a problem that he should have dealt with a long time ago.
Intriguingly, too, Maya Soetoro-Ng is believed to have been born outside the United States, in Indonesia, so her apparent ownership of a Hawaiian Certificate of Live Birth raises questions about how such a document was produced for an Indonesian-born girl. That, too, may shed light on Barack Obama’s citizenship status and his ability, or inability, to document it.
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inability, to document it.
We will be seeing more and more of these words from obambi.
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Jul 23, 2008 ... which is my committee, a bill to call for divestment from Iran...” - Barack HUSSEIN Obama Junior! speaking in Israel
— But - Obama OPPOSED that bill to call for divestment from Iran
— Obama has never been appointed to or served as a member of the Senate Banking Committee
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- “Law Professor” - Barack was only an instructor - in law classes he used the blackboard to teach the radical leftism of Communist Saul Alinski
Oh, I think you have a very good thought there.
You are right and it seems that everything will be coming due. Plus taking over a war, terrorism, etc...
Yep, you may be correct there n&v.
The media reports, you decide. (from the Honolulu Star-Bulletin, July 14, 2008):
"Cutting-edge ventures in vital statistics have taken Alvin Onaka (chief of the state Health Department's Office of Health Status Monitoring) to the heady reaches of Washington politics.
Most recently he has been at the forefront of the controversy over Barack Obama's birth certificate. To battle a spate of unsubstantiated rumors, including one that Obama is not a natural-born U.S. citizen, the Obama campaign launched a Web site called "Fight the Smears." It shows a copy of his Hawaii birth certificate.
Onaka said he has had many calls asking him to confirm Obama's birth certificate, but he cannot disclose such information: "Only Obama can consent to that."
Damm.
I was hoping you could convince me I’m nuts.
Hey, thanks for that map and stuff. I searched and searched for a map of that time period, but I couldn’t locate that I could be certain was correct. And without any knowledge of that area, or a map, I only had a US document. But I don’t know if any of that is worth anything anymore. What a sad state of affairs we have become as a nation.
Now Paris Hilton gets more media attention by pitching a McCain temper tantrum.
It may have taken hold, but that ad will cause him more trouble. In one way, it really was kind of dumb to mock a mentally ill woman (Britney) just to make a point.
*shrug* You’re welcome.
I was fortunate enough to ask the right questions to the right person...
Also, in doing some research on where she was born (one website stated Jakarta), it said she went to the same private schools in Hawaii as a 10 year old as Barack.
Interesting.
I’m afraid not. Not in this day and age.
There is nothing in this whole election cycle/candidates that makes sense to me.
That's what I thought too. When the issue of the birth certificate first came up, I read a few of the articles posted here and decided it was a waste of time. It's been months since I've clicked on an Obama birth certificate thread. Then, yesterday, on a whim I looked at the Texas Darlin blog and saw TechDude's latest post -- and I have to say, I think there might be something to this.
The Constitution is also silent on security clearances. Bill Clinton couldn’t have gotten a high enough security clearance to be his own janitor.
“How can this be when she was born in Indonesia?”
SHE WAS BORN TWICE!
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2040486/replies?c=4191
Perhaps he can run for President of Kenya. Is he eligible for that?
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