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To: Alia; SierraWasp; calcowgirl
Fascinating. All the reports from right and left pundits made clear, at the time, that it was Governor Wilson’s strong stances on Prop 187 (halting benes to illegals) and 209 (which of course the left MSM painted as his being a “racist”) which brought Gray Davis into office.

All of the reports, eh? You have them "all" in a box somewhere? Well I was working in Sacramento at the time on campaigns with Republican consultants and reporters and pundits and no conservative ever suggested any such thing.

Davis won because there had been no strong Republican leader for voters to identify with in several election cycles and Dan Lungren was a lousy candidate.

Maybe you should look through that collection of yours again that contains "all" the pundits' opinions from that period.

52 posted on 08/04/2008 10:23:39 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (The road to hell is paved with the stones of pragmatism.)
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To: ElkGroveDan

This reminds me a bit of the “Arnold only turned left after his ‘conservative’ initiatives failed”
talking points that operatives continue to float on FR.

Repeat something often enough, people will eventually come to believe it.


53 posted on 08/05/2008 12:25:51 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: ElkGroveDan
Oh forgive me, great one, for having not forgotten what you've already told me regarding your exalted position in Sacramento politics.

You were in Sacramento, I was in San Francisco. You posted what you saw in Sacto which led to the election of Gray Davis; and I posted what I saw from where I was.

There is no need for you to feel so personally intimidated as to react as you have, and to ping your your pals should they feel "inclined" (as they have in past) to form a cyber posse.

In re Dan Lungren. There was far more going on behind the scenes than your assertion that Dan Lungren was a "bad" choice to run.

Yep, Dan Lungren dropped like a stone in the race when he came out fully and strongly PRO-LIFE. He talked about being anti-abortion. He did exactly what "conservatives" say they wish to see in a "conservative Candidate". And you call him a lousy candidate. lol. "What do uber conservatives really want"? Tagline for a movie?

54 posted on 08/05/2008 4:02:25 AM PDT by Alia
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