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To: AndrewC
Yes, in fact, you are limited by my credulity. For example, a systemic source of error in your analysis is the fact that you did not see and hear the testimony.

We all have the transcript of the trial, but it's impossible to tell whether the person testifying is speaking, scowling, fidgeting, or picking his nose. To suggest that it doesn't matter (or ignore it) is arrogance.

And incidentally, if you had been a member of that jury and visited the scene (without permission) you would have been summarily removed from the deliberation. (Not trying to change the subject).

82 posted on 08/05/2008 7:50:22 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy; calcowgirl
We all have the transcript of the trial, but it's impossible to tell whether the person testifying is speaking, scowling, fidgeting, or picking his nose

You don't have to see a person picking their nose to determine if what they are saying is counter to other facts.

Davila's testimony on this. Vol 8 pg 38

1 you got to the ditch, you jumped out of the van as it was still
2 moving, correct?
3 A. No. I stopped the van first.
4 Q. And you opened the door and got down?
5 A. Yes.

Compean's testimony Vol 13 pg 153

2 Q. So do you see him arrive?
3 A. Yes, sir, I do.
4 Q. What happens?
5 A. When he started -- he was maybe about 10 to 15 feet away
6 from the -- from the edge of the ditch. I saw the driver's
7 side door open, and I observed him jump out.
8 Q. He jumped out of a moving vehicle?
9 A. Yes, sir, he did.

To suggest that delivery of facts changes those facts is the arrogant position. If the factors that you state are unequivocal measurements of truth, Ted Bundy would be walking around free instead of pushing up daisies.

Finally, your incidental note is irrelevant to the fact that I got a better view of the environment at the ditch than the jury did.

If you don't see the relevance of the picture, you can see that the driver door is blocked by dirt. Davila did not open that door while the van was in that position. He jumped out of a van which was moving as Compean testified. And no, the agents did not pile dirt on the door in anticipation of Compean's testimony a year later.

83 posted on 08/05/2008 8:53:15 AM PDT by AndrewC
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