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Absoutely Priceless Example of How Poor Alarmists' Science Can Be
Climate Skeptic ^

Posted on 08/03/2008 6:33:19 PM PDT by Delacon

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Priceless.
1 posted on 08/03/2008 6:33:20 PM PDT by Delacon
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To: Delacon; xcamel; steelyourfaith; Reform Canada; grey_whiskers

Robt beats GW to the camel..... (But remembers not to gloat about it.)


2 posted on 08/03/2008 6:39:38 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but Hillary's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: Delacon

“an author who begins with a children’s book and a flawed physics example...”

This is the Democrat’s version of “settled science”.


3 posted on 08/03/2008 6:45:16 PM PDT by ChicagahAl (So your bumper sticker says: "Don't blame me, I didn't vote!"? Duh!)
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To: Delacon
When has the Alarmists' science ever been anything but poor?
4 posted on 08/03/2008 6:47:33 PM PDT by YHAOS
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To: Delacon
Also note that the Ithaca Journal is a Gannett newspaper.

Gannett is totally agenda driven, nationwide.

5 posted on 08/03/2008 6:53:41 PM PDT by jnsun (The LEFT: The need to manipulate others because of nothing productive to offer)
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To: Delacon

This is so funny my eyes shut tight with laughter.


6 posted on 08/03/2008 6:55:05 PM PDT by muawiyah (We need a "Gastank For America" to win back Congress)
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To: Delacon
Marvelous.

Only last night on Oz tv Prime Minister Rudd mentioned "climate change deniers".Considering the usual care politicians (particularly prime ministers)take when choosing words it sent a chill up my spine.

Some of this stuff is hilarious and some of it is not funny at all.

7 posted on 08/03/2008 6:58:23 PM PDT by mitch5501 (Top of the world Ma!)
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No worries mate. We climate realists, climate optimists, climate skeptics, I've found, tend to wear the “deniers” pejorative as a badge of honor.
8 posted on 08/03/2008 7:08:23 PM PDT by Delacon ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." H. L. Mencken)
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The speed of a ball rolling downhill (wind resistance ignored) is absolutely unaffected by its weight. A 10 pound ball would reach the bottom at the same moment as a 100 pound ball.

In the presence of significant friction, the above is not true. Try rolling a marble and a bowling ball down a grassy hill and see which goes faster.

9 posted on 08/03/2008 7:09:40 PM PDT by supercat
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
One lump or two?

Cheers!

10 posted on 08/03/2008 7:12:02 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Delacon
Click here.

Cheers!

11 posted on 08/03/2008 7:13:19 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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"How would you like that snowball in your pants?
12 posted on 08/03/2008 7:16:52 PM PDT by Thrownatbirth (.....Iraq Invasion fan since '91.)
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To: supercat

“In the presence of significant friction, the above is not true. Try rolling a marble and a bowling ball down a grassy hill and see which goes faster.”

In the presence of my significant foot stepping on the marble, the above is also not true. What’s your point? The Ithaca writer’s point was invalid because it was based on an increased mass causing increased speed. What you are talking about is momentum. Btw if you applied equal amounts of force on the marble and the bowling ball to get them rolling down that grassy hill, your bowling ball wouldnt move at all, while the marble would move quite a bit.


13 posted on 08/03/2008 7:22:51 PM PDT by Delacon ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." H. L. Mencken)
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To: Delacon

Even citing Wikipedia would be better.


14 posted on 08/03/2008 7:25:35 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Huma for co-president! (it ain't over 'til it's over))
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To: grey_whiskers

LOL. Saving that link to my favs.


15 posted on 08/03/2008 7:27:20 PM PDT by Delacon ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." H. L. Mencken)
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To: ChicagahAl

Gore used footage from a Futurama episode. How much more proof does anyone need?


16 posted on 08/03/2008 7:40:56 PM PDT by kenth (Just think, .000001783% of the population is screwing it all up for the rest of us.)
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To: Delacon
In the presence of my significant foot stepping on the marble, the above is also not true. What’s your point? The Ithaca writer’s point was invalid because it was based on an increased mass causing increased speed.

A small snowball will have a certain amount of friction acting against it as it rolls down a hill (or doesn't). A larger snowball will not have a proportionately larger amount of friction. On a moderate incline, it's possible for larger snowballs to roll whereas smaller ones will not (since only in the former case will gravity overpower friction).

Btw if you applied equal amounts of force on the marble and the bowling ball to get them rolling down that grassy hill, your bowling ball wouldnt move at all, while the marble would move quite a bit.

Place a marble and a bowling ball both on a grassy hill with a 30 degree slope. The bowling ball will roll just fine even without anyone pushing it. The marble won't (at least not if the hill is ordinary grass, as opposed to e.g. a putting green).

17 posted on 08/03/2008 7:41:06 PM PDT by supercat
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In Al Gore’s film he refers to a pool of “melting water” on the Larsen B ice shelf. Since when does water melt?

Also, when talking about polar bears not being able to have solid ground to stay on due to melting ice, he shows a computer-generated image, not actual footage.


18 posted on 08/03/2008 7:41:55 PM PDT by G8 Diplomat
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Noticed how you left out the momentum part of my post which you have to consider in both your examples. Force needed to start things rolling(or keep them from rolling before you want them to) and such. But come supercat, we digress. The writer was wrong. A snowball doesn’t gain speed strictly due to an increase in mass.


19 posted on 08/03/2008 7:54:43 PM PDT by Delacon ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." H. L. Mencken)
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In the presence of significant friction, the above is not true. Try rolling a marble and a bowling ball down a grassy hill and see which goes faster.

Re-read the article. The author addressed your comment with the following parenthetical statement.

(I would have to think about what increasing diameter would do to a ball rolling downhill and its speed -- but the author's argument is about weight, not size, so this is irrelevant."

The idiot who made the original argument must have never hear of Galileo and the wood ball and the iron ball --- in other words, 7th grade science. But of course Galileo got in trouble for being a 'denier' too.

20 posted on 08/03/2008 8:03:17 PM PDT by Ditto (Global Warming: The 21st Century's Snake Oil)
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