Posted on 08/03/2008 1:55:39 PM PDT by Graybeard58
They need to play more chess. Maybe then they’d know the difference between a queen and a bishop.
The Episcopalians are discussing admittedly gay clergy, while for decades, the Catholic church has hidden the fact of non-admitted gay and pedophilic clergy. Both are putting maladjusted people into positions of esteem and moral authority in their communities. I’m shaking my head.
Also, gravity still remains in effect.
Nothing devisive whatsoever about their scorched earth agenda.
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“I think in the end, people have a kind of attachment”
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The Episcopal church in America to this date claims over 1.5 million members. The true membership role is slightly over 600k.
My family and I left the Episcopal church over two years ago to the Anglican Mission in the Americas (AMIA), yet we are still on the Episcopal membership roles.
The new Anglican alignment, FEllOWSHIP OF CONFESSING ANGLICANS.
The Episcopal church is done. They have strayed away from the body of Christ and are no longer in communion with the majority of Anglicans worldwide.
The Gay Church marches on in its mission to mainstream homosexuality and sexual immorality in America.
The heterodox American bishops (the primary source of the problem) are being cleaned out, and offenders are being prosecuted, laicized, or parked in monasteries with no contact with the public (those who are still alive or competent - most offenses took place 25 years or more ago).
And the Episcopalians are inviting them in. There is plenty of 'chickenhawking' going on in the Episcopal church, but apparently nobody cares (mostly because the media likes the very liberal Episcopalians, but hates the socially conservative Catholic Church.)
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The Catholic Church may be cleaning house now, but its going to take a long time, and an even longer time to regain the damaged trust. Even now, long submerged cases of abuse keep cropping up.
I would agree that in contrast, the Episcopals are doing nothing of the sort, and indeed, seem hell bent on going in the opposite direction and proud of it.
Unfortunately, the Catholic Church is bigger, and the scandal has been brewing for years. The Episcopals seem to be earlier on the curve -- their scandals lie in the future, after the newly ordained gay leaders settle in.
It's just that you don't read about it in the news.
At this point, many of the 'long submerged' cases of abuse are either trial lawyers looking for a payday because the alleged perp is dead and can't defend himself, or folks with some mental/emotional problems (it is less and less believable as time goes on that these folks were 'afraid to come forward'). Unfortunately the ambulance chasers and the drama seekers tend to 'pile on' to notorious cases. This of course makes it harder for an actual victim to get help or prove his case . . . . but that is often true of stories that get big news time.
I researched this issue very carefully when we started looking for a new church home, because we did not want to jump from the frying pan into the fire. The abuse was largely confined to a relatively small number of dioceses, which were mostly headed by heterodox bishops who were busy undermining the Church in the name of "modernity" and "relevance" and "the spirit of Vatican II" (if they had stuck to the Church's teachings and policies on homosexual offenders, there never would have been a serious problem.)
Rev. Bradbury is speaking nonsense. There is a huge difference between skin color (something that you can't choose) and sexual orientation (something that you can choose). Furthermore, dissenters are not scared of homosexuals but rather very welcoming of them. We do believe that they have the right to make their choices; however, since homosexuality is considered a sin in Christianity, they may not serve in positions of leadership.
The left-wingers who have hijacked The Episcopal Church (and other mainstream brand names in our society) are Christianphobes, judging by their excessively hostile and angry acts of retaliation against dissenters in their midst.
Funny, my husband and I were just talking this weekend about this attitude of how liberals think to shame conservatives by giving them a name. And, he used your example of them having a phobia against Christians.
As for this topic, I don't think it's limited to the Episcopal Church. It's happening everywhere. This is not something the homosexuals should be trying to force on Christian churches. If they want to form their own church for homosexuals then so be it.
I tell people that if their church is teaching anything other than what's in the bible....RUN! I say KUDOs to those who broke away from the church that condones homosexuality.
It's just another example of the homosexual agenda.
Oh, we know full well the signs.
What a disgusting photo!
I led my family out of Sodom to the Ark of Orthodoxy three years ago. At that time we wrote and informed the local ECUSA bishop we had left and asked to be removed from the roll. We got a "with great sorrow" response. It recently came to my attention that we are still on the roll. I sent a to-the-point letter asking to be (really) removed this time. No response.
Since I'm a lawyer, perhaps I'll sue them in my spare time. Seems to be all they understand. Since TEC is no longer Christian, the prohibition of I Corinthians 6:1 does not apply.
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