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Top 5: Knob-twiddlers (Music Producers Extraordinaire)
Washington Times ^ | 7/4/08

Posted on 08/03/2008 9:50:16 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat

At their best - or, if you prefer, their pushiest — producers often are de facto composers.

1. George Martin — How do you turn a scruffy quartet of Liverpudlians into the most innovative act in rock history? Hook 'em up with the classically inclined yet progressive-minded Mr. Martin.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


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To: Gay State Conservative

But it’s pure Spector. He was an A&R guy for Liberty. Was supposed to produce it for Vicky Carr. Took it to England, with Darlene Love, cut it on his own label [Philles Records], credited it to the Crystals [who he had under contract], and released it.

Love got paid as a session musician [no royalties], Liberty and Carr got screwed, and Spector made all the money.


21 posted on 08/03/2008 11:05:43 AM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: ArmstedFragg

Nitzsche also cowrote “Needles and Pins” with Sonny Bono, and released some instrumentals [”The Lonely Surfer” or “The Angry Surf”?]


22 posted on 08/03/2008 11:08:11 AM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: PzLdr
Love got paid as a session musician [no royalties], Liberty and Carr got screwed, and Spector made all the money.

Speaking of which, somewhere on the internet there's a portion of Phil's "kiss-off" record to Les called "The Screw".

One of the best books on that era of recording is called "Temples of Sound" by Bill Clark. It was a twenty five buck paperback when it was released, it's now selling for around forty used. Next round, I'll skip the stock market and put all my money into recording history books.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/0811833941/ref=lp_g_1

23 posted on 08/03/2008 11:13:03 AM PDT by ArmstedFragg
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To: PzLdr

Sonny was Phil’s “go-fer” for several years. He was reportedly a better musician than he was a skier.


24 posted on 08/03/2008 11:14:46 AM PDT by ArmstedFragg
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To: ArmstedFragg
Sonny was Phil’s “go-fer” for several years.

That's how Sonny got the recording time at night for "I Got You Babe"...unbeknownst to Phil.

25 posted on 08/03/2008 11:19:48 AM PDT by newfreep ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." - P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: ArmstedFragg; PzLdr
Love got paid as a session musician [no royalties], Liberty and Carr got screwed, and Spector made all the money.

Although I recall reading a story or two about how Spector was disliked by some in the music biz I wasn't aware that he was a quasi-con artist.But when it came to gettin' the stuff on acetate he was still a genius (IMO).

26 posted on 08/03/2008 11:24:14 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Obama:"Ich bein ein beginner")
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To: Captain Beyond

“...Where is Mutt Lang,...”

He’s divorcing Shania Twain. That is worthy of a severe a$$ beating. What guy in their right mind would do that?


27 posted on 08/03/2008 11:27:30 AM PDT by NCC-1701 (DRILL NOW. DRILL OFTEN. DRILL 24/7/365. PAY LESS. SUCK THE GROUND DRY.)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Except for George Martin, few can come close to the accomplishments in the studio of the Bradley Bros, Owen and Harold, and Chet Atkins. My bets are that the Bradley Bros. and Chet Atkins from the studio orchestrated more hits than #2-5 combined.


28 posted on 08/03/2008 11:38:58 AM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: Starboard

I had forgotten Mutt Lange...also someone else mentioned Rick Rubin; his work with Johnny Cash was phenomenal.


29 posted on 08/03/2008 11:49:29 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (Just say NObama!)
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To: newfreep
That's how Sonny got the recording time at night for "I Got You Babe"...unbeknownst to Phil.

Let's hear that story....I'm interested.

30 posted on 08/03/2008 11:50:30 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (Just say NObama!)
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To: Recovering_Democrat
Just 5 really is far too limiting. But I would agree with all of these. I would also add Todd Rundgren. While his music is something of an acquired taste, there are few producers with a better ear for "pop" sounds. While he's had a number of hit songs himself and with his bands, as a producer he's really something of a powerhouse. The albums he's produced are pretty staggering, and the list of bands that he's turned into hit makers is amazing.

Just as a hint of some of his production work, there's XTC's "Skylarking," pretty much off of Hall & Oats hits, and Meatloaf's "Bat out of Hell." There are FAR more.

Mark

31 posted on 08/03/2008 12:11:07 PM PDT by MarkL (Al Gore: The Greenhouse Gasbag! (heard on Bob Brinker's Money Talk))
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To: Recovering_Democrat
Sonny "learned" the recording techniques from Phil Spector at "Gold Star Studios" - home of Phil's "Wall of Sound". Phil purposely avoided miking individual instruments to focus on the whole sound...ie, the "Wall of Sound".

Some interesting tidbits...
Sonny & Cher sang backup on "You've Lost That Lovin Feeling" that Phil produced at Gold Star.

In addition, the Beach Boys did most of their recording at Gold Star including "Pet Sounds".

Gold Star was a very legendary studio that was the home to the equally legendary "Wrecking Crew" studio band that included Hal Blaine on drums and Carol Kay on bass. The Wrecking Crew played the instruments on most Beach Boy albums.

32 posted on 08/03/2008 12:42:19 PM PDT by newfreep ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." - P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: newfreep

Pet Sounds was done at United Western with Bill Putnam at the controls. Most of Brian’s work was done in Western 3.


33 posted on 08/03/2008 1:03:57 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg
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To: ArmstedFragg

Here’s a pretty good series of track notes for Pet Sounds.

http://www.beachboysfanclub.com/ps-tracks.html

They did do some vocal tracking at Gold Star, and a couple of other places, but most of the work was done at Western.

The reduced number of mikes used by Spector was partially related to the state of the art at the time. Gold Star was this tiny little place at Santa Monica and Vine. The studio was roughly 20 by 35, which means there’d be almost no separation anyway. But, more importantly, all they had was two and three track machines until ‘66. Even if they’d isolated tracks, there’d have been no place to record them.

The Wrecking Crew played just about everywhere in town. They got their nick-name from the comments of some of the older Union members who claimed they were wrecking the business by playing that horrible rock music. They were the best of the best at hitting the studio, taking a quick run through, and laying down a track, so you got a lot more work done with them and they were in a lot of demand. They were great musicians, creative, adaptive, just a good group. The late, great Barney Kessel was the primary guitarist with the crew. His kids are still involved in the music business in L.A., operating a club.


34 posted on 08/03/2008 1:36:28 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg
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To: ArmstedFragg

See post 34 for more info. Minor correction in what emerged from my fuzzy memory, Western WAS Putnam’s creation, but I believe Chuck Britz did most of the work with Brian on Pet Sounds.


35 posted on 08/03/2008 1:56:52 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg
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To: ArmstedFragg

Thanks for your comment - actually, we’re both correct. Pet Sounds was recorded at both Gold Star and Western.


36 posted on 08/03/2008 2:16:37 PM PDT by newfreep ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." - P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: newfreep

See post 34


37 posted on 08/03/2008 2:49:10 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg
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To: Gay State Conservative

Phil started out with the Teddy Bears. Wrote their only hit, “To Know Him is to Love Him” [He was one of the “Duh Duh Da Duh Da Duh” guys in the back]. Got the title off his father’s tombstone. Sums him up pretty well.


38 posted on 08/03/2008 8:21:41 PM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: PzLdr
the Teddy Bears.

Whose lead singer wrote the Rocky Theme.

39 posted on 08/04/2008 2:13:51 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg
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