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To: xDGx
One of Peter Duesberg’s assertions is that the drugs used to fight HIV causes the symptoms of AIDS and that the HIV is harmless.
Logically if the use of drugs that reduce the viral load prolongs life or health and the NONUSE of such drugs leads to AIDS at an earlier date then a prima facia case could be made for HIV as the cause of AIDS. Here is study that demonstrated just that.
“1: N Engl J Med. 1987 Jul 23;317(4):185-91.Links
The efficacy of azidothymidine (AZT) in the treatment of patients with AIDS and AIDS-related complex. A double-blind, placebo-controlled trial.
Fischl MA, Richman DD, Grieco MH, Gottlieb MS, Volberding PA, Laskin OL, Leedom JM, Groopman JE, Mildvan D, Schooley RT, et al.
We conducted a double-blind, placebo-controlled trial of the efficacy of oral azidothymidine (AZT) in 282 patients with the acquired immunodeficiency syndrome (AIDS) manifested by Pneumocystis carinii pneumonia alone, or with advanced AIDS-related complex. The subjects were stratified according to numbers of T cells with CD4 surface markers and were randomly assigned to receive either 250 mg of AZT or placebo by mouth every four hours for a total of 24 weeks. One hundred forty-five subjects received AZT, and 137 received placebo. When the study was terminated, 27 subjects had completed 24 weeks of the study, 152 had completed 16 weeks, and the remainder had completed at least 8 weeks. Nineteen placebo recipients and 1 AZT recipient died during the study (P less than 0.001). Opportunistic infections developed in 45 subjects receiving placebo, as compared with 24 receiving AZT. The base-line Karnofsky performance score and weight increased significantly among AZT recipients (P less than 0.001). A statistically significant increase in the number of CD4 cells was noted in subjects receiving AZT (P less than 0.001). After 12 weeks, the number of CD4 cells declined to pretreatment values among AZT recipients with AIDS but not amonG AZT recipients with AIDS-related complex. Skin-test anergy was partially reversed in 29 percent of subjects receiving AZT, as compared with 9 percent of those receiving placebo (P less than 0.001). These data demonstrate that AZT administration can decrease mortality and the frequency of opportunistic infections in a selected group of subjects with AIDS or AIDS-related complex, at least over the 8 to 24 weeks of observation in this study.
PMID: 3299089 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]”
Notice the difference between those who received placebos and those who received AZT.
In an interview Duesberg recommended those taking such drugs cease taking them!
If someone thinks that HIV is harmless let them take an injction of the virus. Any volunteers?
34 posted on 08/02/2008 1:33:00 PM PDT by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: count-your-change
PMID: 3299089 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

I used to use MEDLINE when it was updated monthly by new CD-ROMs. Then I could retrieve a citation by entering its unique identifier with an entry like UI: 3299089 into the query box. When I try PMID: 3299089 at PubMed, I get nada. Do you know what I'm doing wrong?

38 posted on 08/02/2008 1:52:31 PM PDT by neverdem (I'm praying for a Divine Intervention.)
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To: count-your-change; xDGx

PS c-y-c, it would be nice if you could simply make a point, rather than issuing (badly formatted) quote bombs. Make SPECIFIC arguments, cite your sources, and I will be glad to engage.


45 posted on 08/02/2008 2:15:16 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: count-your-change

Read the following, and then tell me if you still believe the AZT trial followed proper scientific protocol.

Note: they are specifically referring to the paper your abstract is referring to:

http://www.rethinkingaids.com/GalloRebuttal/Farber-Gallo-32.html


51 posted on 08/02/2008 2:33:51 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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