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George Will: Suffering from too much of Obama's eloquence
The Pahrump Valley Times ^ | August 1, 2008 | George Will

Posted on 08/01/2008 7:15:27 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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1 posted on 08/01/2008 7:15:27 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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Enough, already, with the we-are-who-we-have-been-waiting-for rhetorical cotton candy that elevates narcissism to a political philosophy.

That George Will sure has a way with words! Great read.

2 posted on 08/01/2008 7:26:48 PM PDT by GOPJ
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Cosmopolitan works fine for a New York businessman. But I want the President of the United States to be only for America. Sorry, that is my requirement. Same as I want the person running my corporation to be only for my corporation. Be cosmopolitan on your own time.


3 posted on 08/01/2008 7:29:29 PM PDT by autumnraine
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
someone sufficiently unenthralled to tell him when he has worked one pedal on the organ too much?

Good analogy. Pretty good piece. Bottom line: Obama jumped the shark in Berlin. It's now an observable fact.

4 posted on 08/01/2008 7:29:58 PM PDT by Huck (A Teddy Roosevelt wannabe is better than a Che Guevara wannabe.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

the hollow people

have their eloquent

hollow man.


5 posted on 08/01/2008 7:33:14 PM PDT by ken21 (people die and you never hear from them again.)
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To: GOPJ

Maybe a great read, maybe. But at times I wish George would follow the advice he gives the haloed one. Stop pontificating George!


6 posted on 08/01/2008 7:39:47 PM PDT by xkaydet65 (Freedom is purchased not with gold, but with steel.)
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To: GOPJ

Maybe a great read, maybe. But at times I wish George would follow the advice he gives the haloed one. Stop pontificating George!


7 posted on 08/01/2008 7:39:51 PM PDT by xkaydet65 (Freedom is purchased not with gold, but with steel.)
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You pontificated twice :o)


8 posted on 08/01/2008 7:49:26 PM PDT by ataDude (Once is enough...)
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9 posted on 08/01/2008 7:56:59 PM PDT by vox_freedom
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"Who said pontificate?"

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10 posted on 08/01/2008 7:58:17 PM PDT by vox_freedom
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Wise voters -- polls might be telling us that there are more of them than Obama imagines -- hanker for candidates whose principal promise is that they will do their best to muddle through without breaking too much crockery.

This is classic George Will and what I like most in his writings, his ability to deflate political hyperbole with a plain folks metaphor.

11 posted on 08/01/2008 8:02:02 PM PDT by jimfree (Freep and Ye shall find.)
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..."citizen of the world" and "global citizenship" are, strictly speaking, nonsense. Citizenship is defined by legal and loyalty attachments to a particular political entity with a distinctive regime and culture. Neither the world nor the globe is such an entity.

- Will's THE best.

12 posted on 08/01/2008 8:09:34 PM PDT by GOPJ
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To: ataDude

Yeah but I never take myself seriously. Well almost never.


13 posted on 08/01/2008 8:26:28 PM PDT by xkaydet65 (Freedom is purchased not with gold, but with steel.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
“Leave no metaphor behind”!... a telling observation...

There does seem to be a declining interest in Obama’s persona - especially his oratory.

People have observed that the orations have become so intrinsically grating for whatever reason that they simply have stopped listening to him.

14 posted on 08/01/2008 8:44:01 PM PDT by mtntop3
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Obama knows almost as little about politics as George Will.

The idiots in Obama’s campaign listen to the focus groups tell them that Obama is not experienced enough in foreign policy... So they send him to Europe and the Middle east to show how well he was received by the powers in the middle east and in Europe. It was a bust. That was quite predictable.

Obama has made lots of statements on Foreign Policy, if the voters agreed with the statements and positions Obama has taken, then they would not tell focus groups that Obama does not have enough experience.

NOT HAVING ENOUGH EXPERIENCE TRANSLATES TO THE VOTERS DON”T AGREE WITH OBAMA’S POSITIONS ON THE ISSUES!!!
Get a friggin clue.

Think about it. Imagine a voter saying I agree with Obama on the immediate pull out of IRAQ. Imagine a voter saying I agree that we need to talk to our worst terrorist enemies face to face with no conditions. Imagine a voter saying, we should listen to the Germans and French and then do what they approve of us doing..

Then imagine that same voter saying, but Obama does not have enough foreign policy experience.

Look at him like a ball player. A player who has never played a single inning of professional ball gets a major league try out. The major league team has their best pitcher try to strike him out. But every pitch is out of the park for a home run.
Then they put him in Right field and start hitting balls to right field.. He never misses a single one and throws each fielded ball to the catcher with a perfect throw.

Do you think they would say.. The guy is perfect ball player, but he needs more experience. When a player can’t hit, field, or throw well.. they say he needs more experience.

VOTERS THAT DON”T LIKE YOUR POLICY WILL CLAIM YOU DON”T HAVE ENOUGH EXPERIENCE.

The problem with Obama changing his positions to agree with the voters positions on the issues, is most voters won’t believe his new version.

THE SECRET TO WINNING VOTER SUPPORT IS TELLING THE VOTERS WHAT THEY WANT TO HEAR.

The most inarticulate speaker known to mankind will defeat the worlds greatest speaker, it the worlds greatest speaker is saying what people don’t agree with, and the inarticulate guy is saying what they want to hear,.... even if the candidate they agree with, is a lousy speaker, he will still win.


15 posted on 08/01/2008 8:44:39 PM PDT by Common Tator
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The world is a fact, and facts are indeed stubborn things
Down, George, down. Follow your own advice.

Speaking of 'stubborn facts,' Will has his own "Iraq problem." Get over it, George, the President was right. Quit bloviating and get over your idiotic anger at the President. Indeed, reality intercedes: hell, even you managed to switch seats from Cambden Yards to National's Park.

Yes, George, freedom overseas is a benefit to all the world, ourselves included. Freedom in Iraq is, indeed, a guardian of our own freedom.

16 posted on 08/01/2008 9:05:00 PM PDT by nicollo (you're freakin' out!)
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"Measured against his party's surging strength in every region and at every level, he is dramatically underperforming."

This is not a reassuring statement.

17 posted on 08/01/2008 9:06:57 PM PDT by Batrachian
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

"Of course, from Obama, such tropes, although silly, are not menacing, any more than they were from Ronald Reagan, who was incorrigibly fond of perhaps the least conservative, and therefore the most absurd, proposition ever penned by a political philosopher, Thomas Paine's "we have it in our power to begin the world over again." No. We. Don't. "

Well, at least someone has finally said it.

Obama's Magical Mystery power trip seems to be "We have it in our power to make the liberal over again." He's redefining liberalism (i.e., socialism). And remember what Marx said about when history repeats itself...the second time around as farce.

Obama's campaign is like one of Dieter's dreams. After each absurd, grandiose fantasy is unveiled, you're waiting for Mike Myers to yell, "Touch my monkey!" in an avant-garde German accent.


(Dieter/Sprockets: SNL)


"Vould you like to touch my monkey? Touch him! Love him!"


18 posted on 08/01/2008 9:23:41 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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“I want the President of the United States to be only for America.”

Reminds me of the story (true or not, who knows) that Reagan’s Secretary of State, George Schulz, would call newly appointed ambassadors into his office and ask them to point out to him their country on a large map. Those who pointed to the country they were being assigned to were reminded that, no, their country is the USA.


19 posted on 08/01/2008 9:23:46 PM PDT by EDINVA
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"a sophistical rhetorician inebriated with the exuberance of his own verbosity."

LOL! Never seen this quote before.

20 posted on 08/01/2008 9:30:09 PM PDT by MCH
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