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To: Saundra Duffy

“it does not mean that every FLDS man, woman and child should be rounded up, emotionally tortured, and destroyed.”

Which is the ‘why’ of this whole thing. These people were rounded up by Warren, and emotionally tortured, even though they thought it was the ‘word of God’, and young girls are destroyed by being forced into sex, when THEY aren’t ready.
Elissa Wall said it. She didn’t know that men and women did anything else in bed, except sleep.

Isn’t that a bit creepy? To play that game with a little girl? Her not knowing what sex is, and you an adult?


You’re statement translates to: even if the women and children, and men, were treated like slaves by Warren and his posse, that the CPS had no right to investigate, and do what it takes to identify the children, and take them out of a dangerous environment until the legal end of things are complete.

I don’t think the CPS had much choice, but to act. And to act on what they saw. And act on information from reputable sources.

The Sheriff has made statements confirming the information we have talked about in these threads.

The children were taken, identified, and the best care possible was taken of them, considering the circumstances.

You can ‘see’ this situation from the view of a 12 year old child of the FLDS, but at some point, it is valuable to look at it from the view of an adult, who knows what is legal, what is not, and knows that while it was hard on the women, and children, (and men), it was necessary, and it is done.

Evidence is slowly being released and we see that the claims are very likely true.

There can be civil lawsuits by the FLDS against whatever authority they choose to target, for whatever ‘right’ they think was violated, or law not followed.

No one is against that. That IS their right.

The situation with the children, and the newly starting Criminal case, are two different things.

IIRC, you said you were all for prosecuting any of the men who were indicted.

How could these indictments have come about, if CPS had not gone in to investigate the complaints?

Remember, there were already complaints, but the FLDS wouldn’t cooperate with the CPS, in four years.

Why?
I understand your concern for the women and children, and commend you for sticking to it. (again)

But, aren’t you ignoring the bigger picture?


23 posted on 08/01/2008 7:25:30 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: UCANSEE2
...that the CPS had no right to investigate, and do what it takes to identify the children, and take them out of a dangerous environment until the legal end of things are complete.

I don't know how many time this has to be said, but no one has said that the CPS had no right to investigate. They just did not have the authority to presume, without evidence, as you apparently still do even after the Courts found otherwise, that the "environment" was dangerous. Actually a dangerous "environment" is not even the standard; a physical threat to the safety of each child is. And the CPS did not have authority to remove the children short of proving that they attempted the very thing they were ordered to do by the Texas Supreme Court and which they are doing now; namely, investigate while making every effort to keep each child in the child's home.

Out of hundreds of children seized and needlessly traumatized, the CPS has shown that only one removal was justified.

None of this should be construed in any way to condone, approve or attempt to justify or excuse any potential crimes comitted by any of the adults.

Cordially,

88 posted on 08/03/2008 10:04:54 PM PDT by Diamond
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