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Ex-wife, kids accuse FLDS polygamous sect foe Fischer of abuse
The Salt Lake Tribune ^ | August 1, 2008 | Brooke Adams

Posted on 08/01/2008 5:10:41 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy

A Utah entrepreneur who has waged a public campaign to assist teens who fled or were kicked out of a polygamous sect was an abusive father and husband who abandoned some of his own children, according to affidavits submitted Thursday to the Senate Judiciary Committee.

The allegations against Dan Fischer, founder of South Jordan-based Ultradent Products Inc., are detailed in sworn statements from a former wife, three children, three siblings and others familiar with his family.

Fischer testified before the committee July 24 in a hearing requested by Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., who is pushing for a federal investigation of the FLDS.

The 14 affidavits were submitted by Rod Parker, a Salt Lake City lawyer and spokesman for the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. Six affidavits also were posted Thursday on an FLDS Web site, truthwillprevail.org.

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To: Pan_Yans Wife

Same thing as the alleged hoax phone caller.

Every single person calling for due process acted as judge, jury, and executioner for her and had her guilty until proved innocent; like her guilt was written in stone.

They still do last I knew.


41 posted on 08/01/2008 9:25:57 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: ladyjane
“so the dirty old men can have their fair share of 13 year old ‘wives.’”

Takes one to know one. (You asked for that.)

I haven't heard that since the 5th grade. LOL

Not only was it a childish remark. It was addressed to a woman.

Even little kids don't call a female a "dirty old man".

42 posted on 08/01/2008 9:26:36 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Ich bin ein Berloser - Barak Hussein Mohammed Obama)
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To: Saundra Duffy

I have to admit, Saundra....

I’m jealous of the energy level you can maintain to be so hysterical all the time. What I couldn’t get done around the house with that kind of energy.


43 posted on 08/01/2008 9:27:21 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Saundra Duffy
Harry Reid jumped right in the middle, the fool.

Matt 5:22 - But I say to you that everyone who is angry with his brother shall be guilty before the court; and whoever shall say to his brother, 'Raca,' shall be guilty before the supreme court; and whoever shall say, 'You fool,' shall be guilty enough to go into the fiery hell.

44 posted on 08/01/2008 9:31:11 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Ich bin ein Berloser - Barak Hussein Mohammed Obama)
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To: metmom
Me too. I need all the energy I can get.

I still don't understand how a mother would allow her teenage daughter to be given to a man . Nor do I understand (& I never will either) how parents can toss away their sons, their own flesh & blood away because somebody like Warren Jeffs tells them too! What on earth is wrong with these people????

45 posted on 08/01/2008 9:32:16 PM PDT by pandoraou812 (Don't play leapfrog with a unicorn! ...........^............)
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To: pandoraou812

I don’t know. My son is 18 and heading off to college, but it’s his choice. He’ll be back on and off but I know I’ll be missing him.

He’s perfectly capable of taking care of himself at this age, but no way could I EVER have kicked him out on the streets 5 years ago, never to see him again, thinking that now that he’s not with the cult, he’s going to hell.

What kind of brain damage is this cult doing to these women to give them the strength to deny their maternal instincts like that?


46 posted on 08/01/2008 9:40:18 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Saundra Duffy

You obviously haven’t bothered to look at my FR page if you think I’m either old or male. As for the “Takes one to know one”, grow up!


47 posted on 08/01/2008 9:49:18 PM PDT by Tamar1973 (Catch the Korean Wave, one Bae Yong Joon film at a time!)
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To: Saundra Duffy; Flo Nightengale

“the terrorized children would not have been returned to their mothers.”

But the CPS was successful in not returning them to their husbands.


48 posted on 08/01/2008 10:57:08 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: Tamar1973

I was just looking at some of your recipes, they look delicious! Do you have a recipe for Korean Spinach?


49 posted on 08/01/2008 11:22:07 PM PDT by Alice in Wonderland
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To: Alice in Wonderland
Korean Spinach, si geum chi na mool

This is not my recipe, but it is authentic and classic. Don't use baby spinach (I made that mistake a couple of times).

50 posted on 08/01/2008 11:31:05 PM PDT by Tamar1973 (Catch the Korean Wave, one Bae Yong Joon film at a time!)
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To: Saundra Duffy

The author of the book is not ex FLDS.


51 posted on 08/02/2008 6:50:56 AM PDT by agrace
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To: Saundra Duffy; UCANSEE2; Pebcak; colorcountry; Pan_Yans Wife; MHGinTN; Colofornian; Elsie; ...
Regarding abortion - If men and women would accept responsibility for their own bodies and behavior, there would be no need for abortion. Be that as it may, abortion is nevertheless big business. The clinics which treat women like cattle are a disgrace; they are dangerous; and they rob us of our dignity. Partial birth, late term abortions are cruel and barbaric. If someone tried to kill a rabid dog that way, the animal rights activists would stage a riot. Young girls need parental support when faced with an unwanted pregnancy. Stop exploiting women and talking down to us. Pro choice my butt. If women really had a choice, we'd choose life for our babies.

The above is from YOUR campaign in 2000, Saundra...Women's Issues By Saundra Duffy

Let's take a closer look at it in light of your consistent defense of the FLDS cult:

"If men and women would accept responsibility for their own bodies and behavior, there would be no need for abortion"..."The clinics which treat women like cattle are a disgrace".......SO....the women in the FLDS allowing themselves and their daughters to be used as breeding cattle by the FLDS men is RESPONSIBLE? Let them all go back to continue their "responsible" parenting? Let the men of the cult continue to rape underaged girls in the name of FREEDOM? Texas was WRONG in taking those children out of harm's way?

"Young girls need parental support when faced with an unwanted pregnancy. Stop exploiting women and talking down to us."....Oh, I just LOVE that statement in light of your stance on the poor, poor FLDS cult members..."Where is your compassion for "young girls and pregnancy" NOW! Just make the state get those young girls back with their "responsible" parents, right now has been your mantra all during this!!

"If women really had a choice, we'd choose life for our babies.

WHAT choice are you insisting on for the young girls who have been impregnated for decades by the FLDS men, Saundra? Tell us how you REALLY feel about the many, many tiny graves in the Carling or Babyland cemeteries. Abuses in Polygamous Sects

Send them back into the same situation to be used and abused from now on? Allow the men to escape trial and prison to satisfy YOUR interpretation of the Constitution and the rights of these perverts?

Well, you obviously didn't win your race for US Representative....thank GOD! I have a daughter-in-law and young granddaughters in California. They certainly don't need the likes of you "speaking" for THEIR rights!

What is the TRUE reason for your defense of this cult, Saundra? Inquiring minds want to know why the big turnaround in your thinking.

52 posted on 08/02/2008 7:57:10 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Eighteen new "I love Romney" threads in the past week,.and counting! Flacking for VP or love-god?)
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To: Irish Rose

Thank you for a great post!
susie


53 posted on 08/02/2008 8:28:34 AM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: Alice in Wonderland
Alice, you have to see this.

The Success has learned that William Sunderland Jessop, 29, died Thursday, July 31, 2008, of unknown causes at the YFZ Ranch. The official cause of death has not been released pending an autopsy but, authorities say they do not suspect foul play. Jessop was the son of YFZ overseer Merril F. Jessop. He is believed to be survived by two wives and at least six children, as well as his parents and numerous brothers and sisters.

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If anyone can find out the why when and how, its Alice!

54 posted on 08/02/2008 8:46:07 AM PDT by JRochelle (John McCain will be better than Bush on wasteful government spending.)
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Another try!

http://www.myeldorado.net/


55 posted on 08/02/2008 8:47:59 AM PDT by JRochelle (John McCain will be better than Bush on wasteful government spending.)
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To: Saundra Duffy

What did that post mean?


56 posted on 08/02/2008 8:50:35 AM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: Saundra Duffy

Sandra, most of us here don’t make decisions on what we think is right or wrong based on what any politician thinks. If old Harry agrees with me on something, then it’s because occasionally maybe he’s right. Are you suggesting that we base our opinions on someone else thinks? If Harry Reid is pro-life do I then need to become pro-abortion? Surely you don’t mean that (but it sounds like you do).
susie


57 posted on 08/02/2008 8:54:49 AM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: Saundra Duffy
Did you catch this from the Deseret News article:

One of Fischer's ex-wives, some of his children, and family friends wrote affidavits that were sent to the Senate Judiciary Committee claiming Fischer was abusive. The affidavits were submitted Thursday by Rod Parker, a Salt Lake attorney acting as a spokesman for the FLDS Church. They were included in a packet outlining the church's clarified policy on marriage and a letter from Parker chastising the committee for not soliciting FLDS testimony.

However, they may be too late to be included in the printed hearing record. That deadline was Wednesday, according to Erica Chabot, a spokeswoman for the Senate Judiciary Committee.

I wonder why they'd submit the affidavits AFTER the deadline. Could it be that the don't want them to be included in the hearing record? Could it be just another flds publicity stunt?

58 posted on 08/02/2008 8:55:10 AM PDT by Alice in Wonderland
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To: Tamar1973

Thank you! I’m heading out to the grocery store right now. I wonder how it’ll go with the Boston Butt I’m making tonight.


59 posted on 08/02/2008 9:02:09 AM PDT by Alice in Wonderland
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To: pandoraou812

While, like you, I cannot imagine anyone I know doing this, however, think about all of the mothers who encourage their kids to do things that would be unthinkable to us. When one believes that it is god telling them to do so, and they have been brainwashed since birth to believe it, it takes a strong minded person to reject it.
susie


60 posted on 08/02/2008 10:07:08 AM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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