[redgolum]

But is the current Israeli state really the Biblical Israel? For one thing the government is fairly socialist, and their actions on archeology show they don't really consider themselves as heirs of the old Kingdom of Israel.

A lot of orthodox Jews have also rejected them for similar reasons. There were Jewish states before, who were thought to be the signs of the end. Not saying that this isn't it, but you have to look at the totality of history. We have been much closer to hitting all the signs then we are today..

[Quix]

It’s the bloodlines that matter in this case at this point.

They will be brought to their Messiah in due course.

They have a very painful detour through the false one, first.

Remember, Scripture talks about their being blinded for our sake. They largely still are. Not greatly longer, however.

He will have 12,000 from each of the 12 tribes doing some grand things in the END TIMES.