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To: Hemorrhage

Provide some empirical evidence that your God is more real than Woden.


68 posted on 07/31/2008 2:24:44 PM PDT by Soliton (Investigate, study, learn, then express an opinion)
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To: Soliton
When I was 18, I loved Joni.

When I was 21, I love Donna.

I think I loved Joni more than I loved Donna.

Those are true facts.

Is there any way I can prove empirically that I loved Joni more than I loved Donna? Is there a way to measure that love and the distance between the extent of both loves that is verifiable?

73 posted on 07/31/2008 2:28:36 PM PDT by Skooz (Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us)
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To: Soliton

>> Provide some empirical evidence that your God is more real than Woden.

I do not bow before the altar of the empirical. I fully admit that my faith requires a leap beyond the empirical. I admit that I cannot empirically prove the existence of God. I admit that I cannot prove the Resurrection of Christ. There are a great many portions of my faith which will eternally defy proof — and I am entirely comfortable with that.

My point is not that my religion can beat your anti-religion in an empirical pissing match — but that the fundamentals of atheism, like all faiths, inherently relies on leaps beyond the empirical.

Once that fact is established (which it cannot be logically denied) — then its simply a matter of how you weigh the evidence. The evidence before me suggests the existence of God. You go a different way ... and that’s fine. But to act as if your faith is based on empirical evidence is simply a fallacy. It cannot be, because it necessarily answers questions which are beyond the scientific.

My point ultimately is — perhaps you shouldn’t be such a disrespectful clown simply because you’ve come to a different conclusion about the existence of God. Perhaps you should be humble enough to admit that you don’t know for SURE any more than we do. You, like us all, are making a leap of faith based on your own assumptions. You’re guessing.

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81 posted on 07/31/2008 2:36:32 PM PDT by SnakeDoctor (Keep Austin Quarantined ...)
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