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What's wrong with science as religion
Salon.com ^ | 31 Jul 08 | Karl Giberson

Posted on 07/31/2008 12:54:12 PM PDT by AreaMan

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1 posted on 07/31/2008 12:54:13 PM PDT by AreaMan
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To: AreaMan

Science isn’t a religion. It requires evidence before belief. Religious people will believe the most ridiculous Sh** in spite of the evidence.


2 posted on 07/31/2008 1:01:50 PM PDT by Soliton (Investigate, study, learn, then express an opinion)
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To: Soliton

Incoming!


3 posted on 07/31/2008 1:07:18 PM PDT by WackySam (The Constitution is not an a la carte menu.)
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Incoming!

I sometimes anger the Liars for God.

4 posted on 07/31/2008 1:09:48 PM PDT by Soliton (Investigate, study, learn, then express an opinion)
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To: Soliton
The FR Religion Mod already declared Science was not religion.
I'm sure her declaration will be posted as soon as someone finds it again.
5 posted on 07/31/2008 1:11:01 PM PDT by ASA Vet
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To: AreaMan

I would hardly call Myers a “science crusader”, and that’s certainly not how his university employer regards his obnoxious stunts. If he was a science crusader, he’d be too busy doing research in his labs, or communicating scientific information to students, to be spending all this time on sophomoric attempts to shock and offend people.


6 posted on 07/31/2008 1:11:41 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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Religion is dangerous, he wrote; it breeds hatred and idiocy.

Define "irony."

7 posted on 07/31/2008 1:15:13 PM PDT by Skooz (Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us)
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To: AreaMan

I am constantly blown away by the arrogance of “scientific atheists”. Their entire theology rests on the assumption that the human mind is capable of comprehending everything in the universe, and, thus, that anything beyond their comprehension must not exist (or there must be some “comprehendable” explanation that they haven’t thought of). This assumption, however, has no empirical scientific basis ... and thus we have the fundamental paradox of “scientific atheism” — their “empirical” faith rests entirely on an assumption with no empirical support.

Second, the entire theology rests additionally on a self-imposed hypocritical sentiment that the statement “There is a God” requires hard proof ... but the statement “There is no God” does not require similar proof.

Science is not a religion — and science doesn’t even conflict with Christianity. To my mind, science is simply God’s way of slowly revealing His miracles in a way we can understand. Atheism, however, is a faith like any other — full of assumptions, non-empirical leaps of faith. Additionally, like many other religions, it apparently has its share of arrogant holier-than-thou followers.

H


8 posted on 07/31/2008 1:16:21 PM PDT by SnakeDoctor (Keep Austin Quarantined ...)
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To: Soliton
Religious people will believe the most ridiculous Sh** in spite of the evidence.

The best examples are those who insist that the only things real are what are measurable and insist that all came existence from some some unmeasurable event AND insist they don't need faith.

9 posted on 07/31/2008 1:21:23 PM PDT by Tribune7 (How is inflicting pain and death on an innocent, helpless human being for profit, moral?)
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To: Soliton

>> Religious people will believe the most ridiculous Sh** in spite of the evidence.

Such a phenomenon is not restricted to the religious. Ever hear of man-made global warming — a “scientist supported” heaping pile of ridiculous s***?

Perhaps “science” doesn’t know as much as it thinks it does.

H


10 posted on 07/31/2008 1:22:56 PM PDT by SnakeDoctor (Keep Austin Quarantined ...)
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To: Hemorrhage
Ever hear of man-made global warming

Yes, AGW is agenda driven anti-science like "Intelligent Design".

11 posted on 07/31/2008 1:24:23 PM PDT by Soliton (Investigate, study, learn, then express an opinion)
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To: Hemorrhage

What changes more often, a science textbook or the Bible?


12 posted on 07/31/2008 1:25:08 PM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: Soliton

Geesh. It took 11 posts.


13 posted on 07/31/2008 1:25:19 PM PDT by Skooz (Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us)
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What's wrong with science as religion

It leaves a bit to be desired on certain subjects, for one...
14 posted on 07/31/2008 1:25:52 PM PDT by JamesP81 (George Orwell's 1984 was a warning, not a suggestion)
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To: Tribune7
and insist that all came existence from some some unmeasurable event

All truth is measurable. All else is wishful thinking.

15 posted on 07/31/2008 1:25:56 PM PDT by Soliton (Investigate, study, learn, then express an opinion)
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To: Hemorrhage
Their entire theology rests on the assumption that the human mind is capable of comprehending everything in the universe

I hold that truth to be self evident

16 posted on 07/31/2008 1:27:40 PM PDT by Soliton (Investigate, study, learn, then express an opinion)
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To: Soliton
All truth is measurable. All else is wishful thinking.

So where does existence come from and what is the measure of the ingredients used to start it?

17 posted on 07/31/2008 1:30:00 PM PDT by Tribune7 (How is inflicting pain and death on an innocent, helpless human being for profit, moral?)
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To: Soliton

>> Yes, AGW is agenda driven anti-science like “Intelligent Design”.

The big secret is — the bulk of atheist “theology” is “agenda-driven anti-science”. It is driven by evangelical atheists, or people seeking to make a name for themselves by disproving Christianity. Its all political.

Any reputable scientist will tell you, science is very often wrong.

H


18 posted on 07/31/2008 1:35:41 PM PDT by SnakeDoctor (Keep Austin Quarantined ...)
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To: Soliton

>>> Their entire theology rests on the assumption that the human mind is capable of comprehending everything in the universe

>> I hold that truth to be self evident

I’ve seen no empirical justification for that assumption.

H


19 posted on 07/31/2008 1:36:40 PM PDT by SnakeDoctor (Keep Austin Quarantined ...)
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To: Hemorrhage

I’ve determined that I can stand liberal atheists more than I can so called “conservative” atheists.

Everyone worships something,

liberal atheists deify the state,
“conservative” atheists deify themselves.

The arrogance is unbearable.


20 posted on 07/31/2008 1:37:31 PM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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