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How Many Wives Is Too Many? (Polygamy Is Biblical, Gays! Now Sit Down And Shut Up!)
Townhall.com ^ | 7/30/2008 | John Stossel

Posted on 07/29/2008 10:06:01 PM PDT by goldstategop

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To: Hi Heels; Alice in Wonderland

I have no doubt Alicein can post a link.

I don’t think she’s awake at the moment.

IIRC, that is from an article. They weren’t her words, but were text from a source.


41 posted on 07/29/2008 11:41:37 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: goldstategop

Finally a common sense article on Free Republic about polygamy! Of course don’t bother the people on here who’ve already made their mind up with facts or anything.. very much like liberals.
Real conservatives research issues and make sure they know all the facts before they jump to conclusions..


42 posted on 07/29/2008 11:44:36 PM PDT by Awestruck (All the usual suspects)
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To: Hi Heels; Alice in Wonderland

I could be wrong about the being asleep part.


43 posted on 07/29/2008 11:50:22 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: Awestruck

“Finally a common sense article on Free Republic about polygamy! “

If we’re gonna discuss polygamy, can the focus be on Hugh Hefner?

I’m not asking for pictures, necessarily, because you know I only read Playboy for the articles.


44 posted on 07/29/2008 11:53:03 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: goldstategop
"If they're saying that's immoral, they're calling the greatest heroes in the Bible ... immoral! ... Saying that Abraham, with his three wives, was immoral. Jacob had four wives. David had seven known named wives before Bathsheba."

A careful study of the Bible will reveal the following:

1. That Abraham's concubinage, not marriage, with Hagar was evil in God's sight which is a factor in Ishmael's being cast out. Abraham's marriage to Keturah was after Sarah's death when he was a widower.

2) That Jacob's marriage to two sisters is condemned by the law as later revealed, and his concubinage with two maid servants was not approved. The point of the misery of Jacob in his marriage relations, the jealousy of his wives and sons was to show that God's displeasure with it.

3) David's multiplying wives was forbidden as king by the law. This sin in Solomon lead in part to the division of the kingdom.

4) The original polygamist was wicked Lamech, a descendant of Cain, who with his house was destroyed (drowned) in the flood when the chronology is put together.

In Malachi 2;15 it is stated that God gave Adam one wife. The point of the text is that God had the Spirit, could have given him multiple wives, not just Eve, if He had wanted to do so.

Jesus repeatedly condemns divorce as adultery, remarriage after divorce as adultery and He emphasizes one man + one woman for life. This is the consistent teaching of the Bible.

That God forgave and endured the sins of the Old Testament does not constitute a sanction of them. Their corruption of marriage was immoral. "from the beginning it was not so," Jesus said so.

45 posted on 07/29/2008 11:53:39 PM PDT by verklaring (Pyrite is not gold)
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To: UCANSEE2
I took a long nap today and I'm wide awake.

I'll regret it in the morning since my 3 grandkids are here and expect me to take them somewhere tomorrow morning.

46 posted on 07/29/2008 11:59:59 PM PDT by Alice in Wonderland
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To: UCANSEE2

I’d be curious to see the credibility of that source.


47 posted on 07/30/2008 12:03:41 AM PDT by Hi Heels (Now here at the Rock we have two rules. Rule #1 obey all rules. Rule #2 no writing on the walls...)
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To: Hi Heels
The links I posted in #40 were about Annette Jeffs. The information about Naomi Jeffs came from Satan's Accountant.
48 posted on 07/30/2008 12:08:13 AM PDT by Alice in Wonderland
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To: Alice in Wonderland
Interesting. I have no argument with your post, but it is presented by the corp that bought Rolling Stone magazine, so it becomes suspect IMHO. Jest sayin'. I haven't seen this info posted anywhere else but here.

I should get to sleep soon, too. I took a nap today, so I'm wide awake and my daughter decided it would be a great idea for me to go to a John Mellencamp concert with her for MY birthday tomorrow. Next year I'm going to request a shovel to the head instead.

49 posted on 07/30/2008 12:16:29 AM PDT by Hi Heels (Now here at the Rock we have two rules. Rule #1 obey all rules. Rule #2 no writing on the walls...)
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To: Hi Heels

“I’d be curious to see the credibility of that source.”

I’m flattered. But I don’t know you that well.

(just kidding)

I think Alicein posted some links.


50 posted on 07/30/2008 12:17:36 AM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: Hi Heels
If you are questioning the information presented in Satan's Accountant, please visit the United Effort Plan Trust website. There you can find Court Rulings, Special Fiduciary Correspondance and Notices, etc.
51 posted on 07/30/2008 12:30:45 AM PDT by Alice in Wonderland
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To: Alice in Wonderland

Internet Explorer cannot display the webpage

Most likely causes:
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52 posted on 07/30/2008 12:32:50 AM PDT by Hi Heels (Now here at the Rock we have two rules. Rule #1 obey all rules. Rule #2 no writing on the walls...)
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To: Hi Heels

Humm, sorry about that. Try this: http://www.ueptrust.com/


53 posted on 07/30/2008 12:35:49 AM PDT by Alice in Wonderland
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To: Alice in Wonderland

Sorry. Even when I paste it into my browser I get nothing. Who is ueptrust.com?


54 posted on 07/30/2008 12:40:41 AM PDT by Hi Heels (Now here at the Rock we have two rules. Rule #1 obey all rules. Rule #2 no writing on the walls...)
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To: goldstategop
"How many wives is too many?"

According to my grandfather, one is too many.

55 posted on 07/30/2008 12:49:04 AM PDT by GOP_Raider (Sarah Palin can be my running mate anytime.)
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To: Hi Heels
That's strange, I have no problem getting to the site.

I thought you were questioning the information because you wrote: it is presented by the corp that bought Rolling Stone magazine, so it becomes suspect IMHO.

The UEP Trust is what the story, Satan's Account, is about.

56 posted on 07/30/2008 12:58:17 AM PDT by Alice in Wonderland
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To: Alice in Wonderland
They did buy Rolling Stone magazine. And to me, that's a suspect resource. The website you mention posts this: "MISSION STATEMENT The express purpose of the UEP Trust (as reformed by the Third District Court for the State of Utah) is to provide for the just wants and needs of the class of persons who are the intended beneficiaries of that charitable trust. "

First, they are only interested in protecting and/or proviiding for a group that are the intended beneficiaries of the trust. Second, I can't find anything even remotely associated with the topic. So, what I have is a trust website who's only interest is the members of the trust and a website of a corp that just bought Rolling Stone magazine, a known liberal publication of, frankly, democrats.

I'm not questioning your statements, I just asked for the link wherein this accusation of public hair pulling, etc. is presented. I'm not even doubting that it might have happened, but where is it presented?

57 posted on 07/30/2008 1:13:19 AM PDT by Hi Heels (Now here at the Rock we have two rules. Rule #1 obey all rules. Rule #2 no writing on the walls...)
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To: UCANSEE2
The FLDS doesn’t have to defend against polygamy, or polygamy (dang, that’s hard to spell), because so far, no one has indicted anyone for it.

One person was indicted for bigamy

58 posted on 07/30/2008 1:36:39 AM PDT by Soliton (Investigate, study, learn, then express an opinion)
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To: goldstategop
What a bunch of BS.

I suppose you are not against slavery either since it is also “Biblical”?

How about stoning people to death? Think that is OK too?

Polygamy is about one thing and one thing only.

Men having sex with multiple partners.

Oh and by the way, Abraham was not a polygamist. Hagar was never considered to be a wife. She was Sarah's maid and was her property.

Typical BS from FLDS defenders.

59 posted on 07/30/2008 1:43:17 AM PDT by JRochelle (John McCain will be better than Bush on wasteful government spending.)
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To: Hi Heels
I just asked for the link wherein this accusation of public hair pulling, etc. is presented. I'm not even doubting that it might have happened, but where is it presented?

I provided three sources in post #40.

60 posted on 07/30/2008 1:50:47 AM PDT by Alice in Wonderland
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