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To: americanophile
Yea, great idea. Politicize the games. Isn't FR enough for you to get your political fix without having to ruin the chance of a lifetime for our athletes.

Are you really agreeing with Jimmy Carter. That was such a bonehead move then that devastated many dreams without accomplishing anything.

The best way to win over hearts and minds for freedom is to expose the Chinese to it. When Bush is in the viewing stands, our athletes can show the Chinese how much we love our system of government.

They can wave proudly to our president - not as a political figure but as the representative of the greatest nation on earth that is not afraid to participate in the Olympics.

With your resolve of American Spirit we would still be under the rule of the British and have the cut-and-run reputation of the French.

Stand proud. Do not be afraid.

6 posted on 07/29/2008 9:57:41 PM PDT by BJungNan
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To: BJungNan
"Yea, great idea. Politicize the games."

The games are self-evidently political and always have been so, and if you think they aren't being used as propaganda by the Chinese government, or weren't so used by the Soviets or the NAZIS then you're seriously mistaken.

"Isn't FR enough for you to get your political fix without having to ruin the chance of a lifetime for our athletes. Are you really agreeing with Jimmy Carter. That was such a bonehead move then that devastated many dreams without accomplishing anything."

Actually I made no mention of the athletes, and did not suggest, as you contend, that they stay home. I suggested that it was regrettable that the President would be in attendance as it lends undeserved prestige and credibility. I would not want to prevent these athletes from their hard-earned opportunity to compete, and did not suggest so.

"They can wave proudly to our president - not as a political figure but as the representative of the greatest nation on earth that is not afraid to participate in the Olympics."

I find it amusing of course that your notion of waving in "pride" at the representative of the "greatest nation on earth" would somehow not have political significance.

"With your resolve of American Spirit we would still be under the rule of the British and have the cut-and-run reputation of the French."

"American spirit" and national reputations such as that you ascribe to France are of course overtly political in nature. Nevertheless, I personally don't see the connection between wartime resolve and the President sitting in the viewing box at an Olympics staged by a communist authoritarian state who we are beholden to with regards to monetary policy and with whom we share a massive trade imbalance. On the other hand it suggests a lack of political courage and a tacit acknowledgment that China is too powerful and too dangerous to offend.

"Stand proud. Do not be afraid." That of course was my point.

7 posted on 07/29/2008 10:35:02 PM PDT by americanophile
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To: BJungNan
Yes, this is the chance of a lifetime for a brutal, murdering dictatorship to continue to try and cover up its repression of millions in China who dream of exercising fundamental liberties.

The Chinese government is the one using a sports event to mask its fundamental inhumanity toward its people.

All mankind yearns for freedom and all deserve to have freedom in a society where leaders are freely elected to SERVE not DICTATE TO, the people.

China is choking itself to death on pollution in its race toward the impossible.

The impossible is its foolish quest for world leadership without allowing freedom to its enslaved people.

Sports does not exist in a vacuum. We don't leave our fundamental, God-given rights behind as we enter a sports stadium.

10 posted on 07/30/2008 3:19:24 AM PDT by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: BJungNan
Yea, great idea. Politicize the games.

Dude, what the hell do you think China has been doing since being awarded the Games but politicizing?

They can wave proudly to our president - not as a political figure but as the representative of the greatest nation

In other words, a politician. A politician who is whoring himself out by going there.

With your resolve of American Spirit we would still be under the rule of the British

That's just classic, a ChiCom sheep judging the American resolve for freedom.

The hell with the athletes, the hell with Bush, and the hell ESPECIALLY with China, me and thousands of others are going to be politicizing this and doing our best to turn this Olympics into the disaster it deserves to be. Get used to it.

13 posted on 07/30/2008 8:01:11 AM PDT by jmc813 (Scattered, smothered, covered, diced, chunked)
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To: BJungNan
“The best way to win over hearts and minds for freedom is to expose the Chinese to it.”

If only that were possible. The only thing the Chinese are allowed by their authoritarian government to be exposed to, is government mandated communist propaganda. Indeed that is all anyone attending the Olympics will be allowed to be exposed to according to the Chinese government.

14 posted on 07/30/2008 8:01:41 AM PDT by monday
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To: BJungNan
Yea, great idea. Politicize the games.

Don't be naive. The Olympics have always been political.

20 posted on 07/30/2008 8:44:32 AM PDT by dfwgator ( This tag blank until football season.)
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