Posted on 07/29/2008 1:34:38 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
O’Bama is an empty suit. He will do as instructed.
Obama would considr it a victory if Iran struck Israel.
Obama will mess things up beyond repair. Look what that great idiot Carter did regarding Israel and Iran. With McCain we have the certainty that the Mullahs will get their due.
Could somebody enlighten me on how Iran could hold off the entire world, let alone the USA?
I have no doubt that we (again) can sink the entire pathetic Iranian navy within hours, but I wonder what the effects of wrecks and scuttled ships in the middle of the Strait would have...
Makes perfect sense!
An Israeli preemptive strike without a follow up occupation is likely to accomplish nothing, and I don't see if happening under any circumstances unless Israel is attacked.
Don't be so sure about that. The USN has wargamed the scenario & it did not turn out well. A Marine General played the part of the Revolutionary Guards Commander and he threw the Navy so many curve-balls that they aren't certain that they can prevail at an acceptable price. Of course this is why you hold these kinds of exercises -- to tease out the possible enemy gambits.
How would this NOT be a possibility anyways with both Obama and McCain being leftist politicians on most issues? It’s either going to be McCain or Obama as the next POTUS unless either one of them either dies or both of them die (either by natural causes or by assassination) prior to November 4 or have something else terrible happen to either one of them to the point that they truly can’t function as the next POTUS.
They can't, according to our top brass and latest Iran NIE.
However, the officials said one of the strategic issues discussed in the estimate is whether Iranian military forces have the capability to follow through on threats to close the Strait of Hormuz to oil shipping in the event of a U.S. or Israeli strike on Iran. An estimated 20 to 40 percent of the world's oil passes through the 21-mile strait.
That question was discussed earlier this month by Adm. Michael G. Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, who said the Iranian military could threaten the strait with its forces but could not keep it closed in response to U.S. and allied military action to re-open it.
Asked about Iranian Revolutionary Guards' threats to shut down Hormuz, Adm. Mullen told reporters July 2 that:
"The analysis that I have certainly indicates that they have capabilities which could certainly hazard the Straits of Hormuz," Adm. Mullen said July 2. "But ... I believe that the ability to sustain that is not there."
There is pent up demand out there among thugs and juntas to go pound on their enemies. Take a US military response out of the calculus and a lot of things look more rational to a dictator.
Factor in the carrots that an Obama Administration would offer to “make nice” after you clobber your enemies, and there will be a virtual free-for-all.
I recall someone on a Clinton Admin. advisory group panel describing for her spouse that that very day that she had “figured out how evil things were out there”. The following day, Clinton put cruise missiles into Afganistan.
It was well into the administration, but they were just figuring this out. Can you imagine how long it will take Obama and his minions to figure this out?
Could somebody enlighten me on how Iran could hold off the entire world, let alone the USA?
"....All of the oil squeezing through the 21-mile strait is well within range of Iranian missiles and aircraft. The sinking of only a few tankers would be sufficient to render those waters impassable.
(Assuming the author is correct in making this statement. Not holding off, just cutting off passibility through the strait.)
I am sure that Halliburton or some such large military contractor has the capability to clean up the strait after a quick naval battle if money is not an object.
I suspect the author is making a pretty good guess as to what is likely to happen. The Israelis would be stupid to count on Obama for anything and they would be insane to allow Iran to actually develope nukes. And even if the Iranians are still 2,3 or even 4 years away from producing a nuke Israel has to take into account the near certainty that an Obama administration would try and prevent a strike. So the window of opportunity is as stated in the article if Hussein wins.
Obama would be happy to have Israel to strike Iran. It would play to his political sensibilities perfectly. He could claim public “outrage” while secretly be happy that it is a problem he did not have to face. Whatever the result, he would spin it as a victory for his Administration’s point of view.
Just look at how he is treating the surge and his visit to Iraq.
The Townhall article is absolutely spot on. And, yes, I shall be trading crude futures on election night -- count on it.
“Iran has credibly threatened to shut down the straits of Hormuz if their nuclear facilities are attacked. Don’t doubt that they have the means to do it.”
That’s debatable. They may interrupt shipping for a bit but they’ll have a hard time keeping it closed with their entire navy and air force being lost in the first 12 hours of the start of the campaign. Missile and artillery batteries along the shore would be a problem but I think our boys will quickly dispense with the threat.
Well Israel has to act in its own interests. But so do we and they may not be the same. [Eisenhower and Egypt and Israel]
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