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Let's give "Blue Dogs" the boot
salon.com ^ | Jul. 29, 2008 | Glenn Greenwald

Posted on 07/29/2008 11:52:18 AM PDT by neverdem

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From his keyboard to God's ears, and he's oblivious to polls with about 3 out of 4 wanting to drill for oil.
1 posted on 07/29/2008 11:52:19 AM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem
The biggest gift the GOP could ever hope for would be an ideological purge of the Democrat Congressional delegation.

May he enjoy great success!

2 posted on 07/29/2008 11:56:47 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: neverdem

OMG they think the disapproval of Congress is because of the blue dogs? ROFLOL!


3 posted on 07/29/2008 11:57:49 AM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: chris_bdba

Think of it as a kind of rash caused by extensive exposure to BDS.


4 posted on 07/29/2008 12:01:18 PM PDT by BelegStrongbow (what part of 'mias gunaikos andra' do Episcopalians not understand?)
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To: neverdem

The author doesn’t understand his own Democratic Party. Democrats do not want to do anything other than get their hands on the pork. If that means fund the war, so be it! If that means passing the wiretapping act, so be it. They just want the pork...


5 posted on 07/29/2008 12:01:36 PM PDT by avacado
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To: chris_bdba

In Oct. 2006, a pollster called me and asked whether I approved of Congress. I said, “No, it’s too liberal.” She asked whether I approved of President Bush. I said, “No, he’s too liberal.”


6 posted on 07/29/2008 12:02:48 PM PDT by PhilCollins
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To: wideawake
"The biggest gift the GOP could ever hope for would be an ideological purge of the Democrat Congressional delegation."

You beat me to it.

7 posted on 07/29/2008 12:07:53 PM PDT by lormand (Don't vote democRAT, from either party.)
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To: neverdem

“Pushing conservative Democrats out of Congress could help the party stand up to the GOP.”

Lol, with the positions the Dems. are taking on some major issues lately, you’re likely to see either more Blue Dogs or more Republicans in Congress.


8 posted on 07/29/2008 12:09:54 PM PDT by Will88
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To: neverdem
RED HERRING ALERT!


Ideological Purge Begins in: 10, 9, 8, 7, 6......

9 posted on 07/29/2008 12:10:07 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress; but I repeat myself.)
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>>OMG they think the disapproval of Congress is because of the blue dogs? ROFLOL!

What’s even funnier is that they consider Steny Hoyer a blue dog. Apparently, even hard-core socialists aren’t socialist enough.

From the article:
“run multimedia ads criticizing the likes of Blue Dog Rep. Chris Carney and Majority Leader Steny Hoyer”


10 posted on 07/29/2008 12:11:18 PM PDT by vikingd00d (chown -R us ./base)
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Now if the GOP would purge the RINO element.
11 posted on 07/29/2008 12:12:40 PM PDT by isrul (Help make every day, "Disrespect a muzzie day.")
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To: chris_bdba
OMG they think the disapproval of Congress is because of the blue dogs? ROFLOL!

Exactly - we disapprove Congress for one simple reason: not enough marxists there...
12 posted on 07/29/2008 12:13:54 PM PDT by alecqss
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To: isrul

The way things are going right now, you’re more likely to see the RINOs purge the Conservatives. They’re working on it already.


13 posted on 07/29/2008 12:14:57 PM PDT by Ingtar (Haley Barbour 2012, Because he has experience in Disaster Recovery. - ejonesie22)
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To: isrul
Now if the GOP would purge the RINO element.

If it did, then it would be a permanent minority party.

In the Democrat party, the leftists control the conversation.

In the GOP, things are good as long as the conservatives control the conversation - when the liberal Republicans start taking over, then there's trouble.

Every party needs its own "centrists" to remain electorally viable.

14 posted on 07/29/2008 12:18:09 PM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: neverdem

Give us the Blue Dogs and give them McCain.


15 posted on 07/29/2008 12:19:12 PM PDT by Road Warrior ‘04 (Kill 'em til they're dead, then kill 'em again!)
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Alas. You are absolutely correct. Thats what this campaign is really about.
16 posted on 07/29/2008 12:19:33 PM PDT by isrul (Help make every day, "Disrespect a muzzie day.")
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To: neverdem
The leftwingers hate moderate democrats and rightwingers hate moderate republicans.
17 posted on 07/29/2008 12:20:20 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: wideawake
You honestly think the liberals don't control the GOP? Or that conservatives control the conversation or anything?
18 posted on 07/29/2008 12:22:07 PM PDT by isrul (Help make every day, "Disrespect a muzzie day.")
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This is both the beauty and curse of the Founders’ theories.

For one party to get into power with a margin, they have to have members from the middle. Once one power gets close to a full majority, and people start saying things like “the Gop/Dems are a permanent minority”, you know things will shift back. As soon as I heard people say the Dems were a permanent minority I knew we were in trouble, just like when the shoeshine boy gives you a stock tip, it is time to get out of the market.

The Dems got lean and mean while the minority, and they rode the tide of events to power, just like the GOP in 1994. Then the GOP got the Big Tent and it fractures, while the other side is passionate and wants to win. The key point is when the rank and file of the majority party realizes their congress isn’t going to do much they want.

The only way to shift things is to move the middle psyche of the country one way or another to change what the middle actually is.

Rightly or wrongly, the Iraq war has given the Dems an opening. But the Dems handling of Energy and possibly mortgage issues could shift it back by 2010. Too late for 08, but 2010 things could shift.

More likely 2012 though.


19 posted on 07/29/2008 12:24:51 PM PDT by Crimson Elephant
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To: isrul
You honestly think the liberals don't control the GOP? Or that conservatives control the conversation or anything?

I said nothing of the kind.

What I said is that the GOP does best when conservatives control the conversation in the GOP.

When the GOP is purely an ideological pressure group it experiences disaster (1964) and when it is purely a talk shop without firm conservative principles it experiences disaster (2006).

When the GOP is broader than just doctrinaire conservatives, but is dominated by conservative ideas and goals, the GOP does well (1984, 1994).

20 posted on 07/29/2008 12:32:22 PM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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