Posted on 07/28/2008 3:13:43 PM PDT by hocndoc
Who owns the abortion clinics?
Well, a seventeen-year-old bride might be legal, and I am sure that there is PLENTY of anecdotal evidence to “prove” that a marriage between a seventeen-year-old and and guy in his mid-to-late thirties can be highly successful and congenial. Heck, I’ve even heard of this arrangement. I can still find it unsettling and creepy. The good thing for those who want to practice this behavior is that I am not some type of all powerful dictator who gets to tell everyone what they can and can’t do based on my emotional responses.
My mom told me, as a fourteen-year-old high school freshman eager to date a cute senior boy, recently turned eighteen, “Any guy who is a legal adult that would want to date a little girl is either a pervert or is scared of women his own age.” Now, in my experience, it seems that once we pass into our early twenties, everything seems to balance out, and large discrepancies in age seem trifling. However, when one of my teenaged girlfriends was dating an adult male that was five or more years older than her, I just saw a loser that was scared of women his own age.
For full disclosure; I have recently turned thirty-five, and look pretty good for my age, so I am not just disgruntled that men like young nubile girls. I felt that way when I was a young nubile chickie myeself! Also, my sister is very happily married to a man twelve years older than her (they met when she was in her thirties, not teens), and am not screaming about age differences being a big deal past the twenty-one or -two mark.
But, yeah, I have a big (personal, emotionally driven as opposed to biological/legal) gut-driven “EWW, Gross, PERV ALERT” feeling about men dating/marrying/sleeping around with teenaged girls. Again, I don’t make the rules, so it certainly doesn’t affect anyone but me, either way.
“Lloyd Hammond Barlow, 38, is charged with three counts of failure to report child abuse.”
It seems your question (from the other thread) was answered.
A big factor in this is DID the 17 year old girl WANT to be a ‘concubine’ to a 37 year old man?
What choice was the 17 year old allowed in the matter? (the answer is none)
Not a legal wife, but a concubine.
I am not advocating old men raping little girls - Not at all.
In fact, I am not advocating anything.
This topic is too dangerous.
Thanks.
This is what happens after an indictment, not a whole lot of news, other than the specific charges.
Sure wish they would have done this four months ago.
“And failure to report abuse is against the law, pretty much everywhere in the US, I think.”
Makes one wonder, how many ‘broken bones’ did he not report, or record?
Did he only send the cases that weren’t abuse to outside agencies?
Or just say, ‘they fell down the stairs’?
(which is, more or less, what he told the press)
As I agree with you completely, all I can add is that our educated guess is that these girls (or, “young women” if that makes it easier to swallow) didn’t have a lot of say-so in their concubinage, it just raises my personal, “NASTY OLD PERV” feelings to the nth degree.
I’ve known a lot of females in my life, and haven’t known a single one who was willing and eager to be one of a number of bed partners for one fellow. Now, maybe it’s just because I don’t hang around with gals with no self-esteem, and maybe out there is a huge number of women who like being second (or third, fourth, fifth, etc.) best, and I just haven’t run into them. Groupies, for example, who might not mind being a notch on a bed post. But, even I can see the difference between a sordid fling with a rock star and “wife” number five for an unattractive fifty-year-old. Neither is remotely appealing to me, but one is a million times less appealing, and it ain’t the rock star! ;)
BTW, I think that whole “broken bones” thing was nonsense.
Lots of folks posted, they had never broken a bone, etc.
Well, I have - I broke the same leg twice, all three of my kids have had broken arms, my wife fell down the stairs and broke here leg in about five places,...
Oh, and I broke my arm, falling off a jungle gym, when I was about six.
It proves absolutely nothing.
And farming, measured by injuries to kids, is the most dangerous occupation in the US.
For the record, it didn’t cross my mind that you would be advocating the rape of anyone!!! I am not going to assume that anyone of FR is getting close to thinking that rape is something to be admired or even accepted.
I agree with you about this being a dangerous topic. I hope I didn’t frame my response in a way that seemed like I was accusing you, personally, of anything! I am just trying to explain why I am interested in those who DO think that there is nothing exceptional about a teenaged girl having sex with men twenty or more years older than they are. In 2008, with maternal mortality rates very low during childbirth, and so many people living in our country giving people a much larger pool of potential mates, men seeking teenagers to mate with grosses me out, and makes me wonder what psychological reasons motivate them.
“I’ve known a lot of females in my life, and haven’t known a single one who was willing and eager to be one of a number of bed partners for one fellow.”
I think this statement may be wrong.
In fact, I think the little girls are raised to percieve it as an honor, and that they buy into it.
Control, obviously - they think (the men) that they can control a young girl, by the power of their unequal status.
What do the girls get out of it?
Why is it their loss to see things handled the proper way?
Good grief, isn’t this what they have been advocating since early April. Oh, well, I guess there is that.
Isn’t it strange 450 plus kids didn’t have to be disbursed across the state of Texas for justice to be served?
There’s no shortage of young women who enjoy having sex with large numbers of men. Google the slang term “pulling a train (but not on a monitored computer at work!) — many young women routinely do this a college frat parties college sports team parties, etc. They like it and go back for more the next weekend. Difference is, they have a choice, which the FLDS girls don’t. They also aren’t going to get pregnant (or at least won’t stay pregnant) so they can stop this lifestyle whenever they come to their senses. The FLDS modus operandi is to get girls “married” and with babies before they’re old enough to even contemplate leaving the cult and trying to live on their own. Once they’ve got a baby or two, leaving doesn’t seem like an option anymore, especially as girls who are thought to be disloyal are apt to have their babies passed off to another woman in the community to raise (with the girl often being given someone else’s baby to take care of), so that she won’t have easy access to her infant(s) for a midnight escape run.
ohhhhh . . . .
It is against the law for any physician and the members of a number of other professions to observe evidence of child abuse and not report it to the authorities. It can easily result in your license being yanked.
Ya’ll lay off Saundra. We may disagree but she’s a real hero. While we were sitting on our big stool of do-nothing and complaining, she was running for office against one of the worst liberals in Congress
“And farming, measured by injuries to kids, is the most dangerous occupation in the US.”
From what I gather these kids were working in the construction field, not farming.
And the broken bones as signs of abuse may be a ‘wild goose chase’.
I just wonder if the Dr. lied about the underage pregnancies, what else would he lie about?
Oh, I can see reasons why men might be interested in lots of young women as “wives” (or just to sleep with!) but I myself haven’t known a gal that would be interested in this type of relationship. I can imagine that the girls in this group are raised to believe that it is their duty to behve this way, but I can’t believe that they are all willing and eager to participate. For sure, the men get a lot of control over people who depend on him for every facet of their existance. Some men would surely enjoy this, but, luckily for the rest of us, most men aren’t willing to deal with the aggravation that all those women would give him, just so he could be a control freak and have lots of bed-time variety!
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