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To: Dead Corpse
Considering you try to make an argument out of your opinion alone

Here are some historical facts, not opinions:

(1) Thomas Jefferson never publicly aligned himself with the Anti-Federalists, attended any of their meetings or signed any of their documents.

(2) Thomas Jefferson never spoke against the Constitution in any public forum.

(3) Thomas Jefferson, as former governor of Virginia, never instructed or appealed to the Virginia legislature or ratification convention to reject the Constitution and he quite publicly remained firm friends with the Constitution's author and sponsor, James Madison.

(4) Jefferson agreed to serve in the Cabinet under the new Constitutional government - something an opponent of the entire Constitutional system would surely have refused to do as a matter of personal honor.

(5) The Anti-Federalists preferred Burr over Jefferson as their candidate and attempted to put Burr in as President over Jefferson.

(6) As President, Jefferson governed as a consistent moderate federalist of the Madisonian persuasion.

(7) As President, Jefferson had very cold relations with his Vice President Burr, who was the champion of the Anti-Federalist faction. He barely spoke with him at all, never consulted him on any matter and expressed no displeasure at Burr's failure to be reelected for his second term.

61 posted on 07/30/2008 7:47:31 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: wideawake
1. TJ and friends Rebelled against their King. Clearly not a "bigger government" move on his part.

2. TJ wasn't even in the US when the Constitution was being ratified.

3. He was firmly against it, as the quotes provided prove, if it didn't have protections for Individual Rights declared right in the text. This, in HIS opinion, was a major failing of the purposed Constitution and put him dead against it.

4. TJ's writings show that he was clearly unhappy with how the Constitution was being formulated and that he forsaw EXACTLY the issues we are dealing with today.

So yeah, you are still a moron...

62 posted on 07/30/2008 7:57:17 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: wideawake

***(4) Jefferson agreed to serve in the Cabinet under the new Constitutional government - something an opponent of the entire Constitutional system would surely have refused to do as a matter of personal honor.***

I’m not sure this is entirely true. It is likely that if he opposed it, he would have had nothing to do with the government, but often people try to work from within to change something they don’t like. I believe an opponent may indeed take a position to try and (in this case) limit the government’s power.


67 posted on 07/30/2008 8:55:27 AM PDT by djsherin
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